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Flagdown 2014: media coverage, etc

Discussion in 'Conferences, Speeches, Radio Shows, and Live Publi' started by sallydannce, May 5, 2014.

  1. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    Yes, that's what I saw and got . . . it will be interesting to see what the arguments are that will be presented. The only basis for hitting him with the subpoena would on the claim that he was acting as an "agent" of of Mark Bunker and the rest of the enjoineds . . . otherwise he is not named in the original injunction restraining him from protesting in front of Cof$ property.

    At worst they might go for a new injunction on him personally.

    R
     
  2. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    For what? Disturbing the people of Clearwater? I doubt it, but we'll see!
     
  3. Anonycat

    Anonycat Crusader

    Conference held in Clearwater challenges Church of Scientology

    http://www.wmnf.org/news_stories/conference-held-in-clearwater-challenges-church-of-scientology
     
  4. RogerB

    RogerB Crusader

    You posted while I was composing :biggrin:

    Thanks for this . . . so you were served thus warning you not to go into the "forbidden zone"? :melodramatic:

    They do try SSOOoooo hard to be bad neighbors! :duh:

    R
     
  5. He-man

    He-man Hero extraordinary

    Effin awesome man. Lots of respect to you.
     
  6. Leland

    Leland Crusader

    I have some video about police and c of s security regarding disputing walking on c of s property if you need it. I'm trying to get it edited and up on YouTube. Plus it is not marked private property or " no trespassing "
     
  7. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    The injunction served on Darth (Alex) was just another example of Scientology's bluffery. It had zero legal standing. One only has to check the Pinellas County Circuit Court record to see that no injunction against Alex was filed with the court.

    https://ccmspa.pinellascounty.org/PublicAccess/default.aspx

    OSA Legal loves abusing the judicial process & toying with people's minds. Sadly, Laura Flynn took the bait & ran with it. Thanks to her, Scientology achieved a win. Alex knew better & ignored it. The cult has not moved forward to ban Alex from protesting it's properties in Clearwater.
     
  8. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Smurf,

    Give it a rest. Show a little class.

    TG1
     
  9. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Fuck off. Transparency is disinfectant.
     
  10. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Yes, transparency is disinfectant.

    But you've been in whining territory for some time now.
     
  11. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP

    Pot calling the kettle black.
     
  12. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    A belated thank you to all of the incredible people that made Flag Down a success speaking out against $cientology. :cloud9:
     
  13. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP


    I don't know much of anything about black magic, so can't evaluate this statement by Nibs, but he said in the Penthouse interview:

    Also, here's a short video clip of him where he makes a reference to black magic in scientology:

    [video=youtube;GGF7rJPQAmo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF7rJPQAmo[/video]
     
  14. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    I have read some... enough to have a few wiccans read all my stuff... not that I was interested in it, but that in deciding to study hypnosis, due to Shawn Lonsdale's death, and I found that THAT history crosses paths....



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    Understand that much of what passes for classic magic consists of the arrangement of items associated metaphysically with each other and what you hope to achieve, and then to do this during the proper arrangement of the stars... and the proper Decan of the day. In Francis Yates "The Art of Memory" there is a description of the Pillars of Solomon, - (Thinking out loud, I'll never be able to convey what Professor Yates took 200 previous pages to get across) .... ok I'll try a more simplistic explanation...

    Just as the E-meter implies that there is science in $cientology.... Just as the setting (stage setting) together with the programmed expectations of the "pc" prime him to engage in powerful auto-suggestion... Putting all these things together, including having the pc sit in a waiting area where there is a gradation chart, together these things (and others) focus a persons intention upon achieving the stated goal of the 'level'... These stated goals are achieved in the same manner that those two girls see mice on the floor in that picture I keep posting by stage hypnotist (Hubbard was also a stage hypnotist LINK) Ralph Slater here <scroll down...

    The pattern used to focus intention of a person's will as described in the invocations of Abra-Mellin, are very similar to what Hubbard did to trick us into powerful self hypnosis of the classically magic kind.

    I'll save you reading Abra-Mellin... In it he, a Jewish Mystic, states (ONE example) that if you want something to happen, you should bake your own bread by your hand, then slice a piece of bread, and write upon it with honey, the invocation you wish....

    I will admit, I gave it a try, I asked for wisdom.

    I hope this helps...

    Arnie Lerma

    Further Reading:

    Prof. Francis Yates U of Chicago, read her books, especially The Art of Memory and the one about Bruno...
    Ioan Culianu - Read his, Out of this World and his book about Giordano Bruno
    Study Giordano Bruno..., Ficino, and those cited by the latter, and Albertus Magnus

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    Giordano Bruno

    PS: And the document Jamie is reading from... 2 pages of that were posted by this writer here to ESMB in 2011 LINK but I was given the wrong cover sheet with those two pages so it is titled differently...and wrongly see last post in that thread (After you read the stuff I posted which was the thing Jamie was reading from) a note from Ortega.

    Two days before Jamie spoke I was sitting in the restaurant with Jamie and he said he found something amazing he was going to read... I asked him if what he had mentioned Abra-Mellin... he said no.. so he hadn't gotten to that part yet... which is the part he read from in the video, and you guys had access to pieces of it 3 years ago here on ESMB.
     
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  15. aegerprimo

    aegerprimo Summa Cum Laude

    (my bold and red)

    So true TG1! My Scientology history makes me cringe AND face-palm.
     
  16. Free Being Me

    Free Being Me Crusader

    Elcon was involved with Aleister Crowley's OTO through Jack Parsons. I believe Veda has referenced this on occasion if I'm not mistaken.

    OTO
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis

    Elcon - Occult Involvement in Pasadena
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard
     
  17. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

    Yeah?

    Well MY Scientology history makes my cat face-palm. :omg:


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  18. Type4_PTS

    Type4_PTS Diamond Invictus SP

  19. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

  20. Smurf

    Smurf Gold Meritorious SP