programmer_guy
True Ex-Scientologist
When Marty pauses and looks down at something (notes?) I wonder if it his own notes or if those are notes from someone else telling him what to say?
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Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking PART 2
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When Marty pauses and looks down at something (notes?) I wonder if it his own notes or if those are notes from someone else telling him what to say?
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George Layton
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Hey they needed a LOT of copy paper, they were out of toilet paper everywhere.
George Layton
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Re: Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking
Did you happen to ask her if she wished it was her that posted it?
Did you happen to ask her if she wished it was her that posted it?
Glenda
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His vids are now appearing on cult hate web site. I don't know the link and don't want to know the link but on The Bunker, someone called Outraged has posted in the comments a screen shot of Martee's vids with other cult hate vids.
Now we know. He's on the dark side. Done deal. Pfff.
http://tonyortega.org/2017/07/01/ho...thy-schenkelbergs-sexy-scientology-sec-check/
Now we know. He's on the dark side. Done deal. Pfff.
http://tonyortega.org/2017/07/01/ho...thy-schenkelbergs-sexy-scientology-sec-check/
dchoiceisalwaysrs
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You are discussing Wordpress I assume.
Of course, as weak as my knowledge is in this area, I suppose just about any site can't be hacked and one of the tools for it is somehow raising(increase the depth) the level of control. Escalation I think it is called.
So legitimate or otherwise, and I think this has been mentioned before. who controls what shows on Marty's blog now.
I suppose even the history can be altered if high enough level of control is attained. So what we can see today might not be exactly as it was when first created.
Which reminds me when I got my first computer I had to go in and zero fill some sectors on a floppy to be able to reuse the space. It worked perfectly even though I learnt how to do it while reading in a language other than English, my only close to fluent one.
Maybe we can re-write history to exclude hubbard's birth using these virtual techniques. It might be worth the attempt.
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dchoiceisalwaysrs
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Yes, my question is;
Will Thomas Szasz be released an updated version of his Manufacture of Madness with some chapters on "scientology> the M R case demonstration " with free audio/video DVD insert....errrh I mean a Super 8 taped included?
Glenda
Crusader
Did my own research. I wore protective clothing. This whole thing disgusts me! 
Marty is owned! Sold his soul.
I will not put the link here because I can't/won't do that. The site where you can find Martee vids about Leah Remini can be found if you search term leah remini aftermath dot com.
It is a site owned by the cult of s international.
Marty is owned! Sold his soul.
I will not put the link here because I can't/won't do that. The site where you can find Martee vids about Leah Remini can be found if you search term leah remini aftermath dot com.
It is a site owned by the cult of s international.
anonomog
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You are discussing Wordpress I assume.
Of course, as weak as my knowledge is in this area, I suppose just about any site can't be hacked and one of the tools for it is somehow raising(increase the depth) the level of control. Escalation I think it is called.
So legitimate or otherwise, and I think this has been mentioned before. who controls what shows on Marty's blog now.
I suppose even the history can be altered if high enough level of control is attained. So what we can see today might not be exactly as it was when first created.
Which reminds me when I got my first computer I had to go in and zero fill some sectors on a floppy to be able to reuse the space. It worked perfectly even though I learnt how to do it while reading in a language other than English, my only close to fluent one.
Maybe we can re-write history to exclude hubbard's birth using these virtual techniques. I might be worth the attempt.
Rewriting history on a blog is easy. Removing the evidence from wayback machine or archive.is not so much.
They could change every mention of "demented midget" into "esteemed and noble leader" or remove articles and request search engines to remove them as site owners. But for Marty's blog this would be silly. It has been used and preserved as a source of reference too much for it to be feasible.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they try. Because cult reasons.
Glenda
Crusader
There really is no low that this cult won't go to. None.
Recently I discovered that one of last years freedom medal winners was someone I had known when I was in the cult. Out of interest I looked up what he won the award for. Full of lies. And I can prove many of them. I worked with the man for many years. The IAS spin story of why he won the award was 85% bullshit. This cult lies internally, and externally, every time the lips move. It is almost incomprehensible the level of distortion and destruction scientology is involved in.
This cult lies and lies and lies and lies. It isn't funny. People's lives get destroyed.
I am not shocked that Marty is now back under cult control and his vids are being used on official cult hate sites. But I am angry. I am angry at the human wastage this cult induces. I am angry about the families it rips apart. I am angry.
Recently I discovered that one of last years freedom medal winners was someone I had known when I was in the cult. Out of interest I looked up what he won the award for. Full of lies. And I can prove many of them. I worked with the man for many years. The IAS spin story of why he won the award was 85% bullshit. This cult lies internally, and externally, every time the lips move. It is almost incomprehensible the level of distortion and destruction scientology is involved in.
This cult lies and lies and lies and lies. It isn't funny. People's lives get destroyed.
I am not shocked that Marty is now back under cult control and his vids are being used on official cult hate sites. But I am angry. I am angry at the human wastage this cult induces. I am angry about the families it rips apart. I am angry.
Re: Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking
Marty is a former cult thug, a blogger who home schooled in quantum theory and now specializes in character assassination.
Besides cult work, including his current freelance assignment, his work background includes peanut vendor at baseball games, lawn sprinkling operations, and stringer for the Corpus Christi Caller-Times, former CEO of a Flea Market Stand cuz he struck Gold selling his soul to the Demon that Runs the Cult of Scientology - Arch Enemy - David Miscavige.
Marty Rathbun is rich. So is his attorney. (in my opionion) Trust me on this one!!
His education includes Hubbard College, FEBC, Class 12 Auditor, C/S and OSA trained THUG.
Trying college for a semester but dropping out.
He's the author of three book-shaped objects and a legend in his own mind.
I LOVE THIS !
Marty is a former cult thug, a blogger who home schooled in quantum theory and now specializes in character assassination.
Besides cult work, including his current freelance assignment, his work background includes peanut vendor at baseball games, lawn sprinkling operations, and stringer for the Corpus Christi Caller-Times, former CEO of a Flea Market Stand cuz he struck Gold selling his soul to the Demon that Runs the Cult of Scientology - Arch Enemy - David Miscavige.
Marty Rathbun is rich. So is his attorney. (in my opionion) Trust me on this one!!
His education includes Hubbard College, FEBC, Class 12 Auditor, C/S and OSA trained THUG.
Trying college for a semester but dropping out.
He's the author of three book-shaped objects and a legend in his own mind.
George Layton
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Re: Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking
Another question. Did you happen to ask her why she hasn't posted at Marty's, on any of the new videos?
Another question. Did you happen to ask her why she hasn't posted at Marty's, on any of the new videos?
John McGhee
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Re: Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking
It's like attending a funeral and looking around to see who's shown up; somebody's absence is more noticeable than their presence
Boson Wog Stark
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[video]https://youtu.be/fH5iAFnzkCE[/video]
I'm doing a second post on Pt. 11, because Marty's review on Leah's segment about Paulette Cooper is an especially nutty ramble. He characterizes the episode as being a "mutual stroke fest" over "stuff" that went on, and it was stuff they were "tasked with abolishing," and that got "settled." No mention of what this stuff was.
Or, rather, he insinuates that Paulette's settlement was the result of an old story where Paulette Cooper "had a beef with Scientology and settled it." See folks? Cooper had a beef with Scientology and settled it. That's the whole story. Nothing to see here. Move on.
He doesn't mention the most basic things like Paulette Cooper wrote a book, or that Scientology framed her for making a bomb threat she didn't make. That's all part of the "stuff" that went on which is not worth mentioning, because it happened years ago.
Here are Marty's own words in Pt. 11, and the segments I'm leaving out do not clarify any of this:
The stuff she alleged, we were young men when we first got involved in handling this stuff. We were dealing with activities that we were tasked with abolishing, and did, at that time. And he's (Rinder) saying 37, 35 years later, "They will do this." And so it's this mutual stroke fest, this series which is degenerating progressively more and more into. So they're stroking Cooper for all this stuff she would settle satisfactorily 35 years ago, and acting as if Scientology will do those things now, right? With no predicate or basis.
It's this mutual stroke fest which is a creation on top of a creation. They're creating Paulette Cooper into something that exists in the present, and she's creating them as serving some useful purpose, and it's all just a creation of their imaginations.
Although he's getting caught up in his own jumble of words, Marty sounds like he said Paulette Cooper doesn't exist in the present. He is trying to deny that Paulette was followed and monitored by the cult years after she received a settlement, and with that he's suggesting the cult would never have anyone followed today, although he doesn't come out and say that. He just thinks his jumble of words will lead listeners to that conclusion.
Does Pat Broeker exist only in the past? Is Shelly Miscavige only in the past? How about L. Ron Hubbard, he in the past too, therefore not worth bringing up?
If Marty ever rambled this incomprehensibly when he was making an appearance on TV, being critical of either Miscavige or Hubbard, it was edited out.
I suppose that an analog for this series by Marty is the PR videos put out by Scientology where Scientologists enthuse about things, and often say total nonsense like, "I didn't know, but now I know." It's not about the content which matters, but you're supposed to catch the wave of enthusiasm and want to take that course or level to have your mind blown.
So the viewer of Marty's series is supposed to ride Marty's wave of critical thinking and knowingness concerning the critics of Scientology, which is bizarre because the cult has said he's a lunatic, which is backed up in part by this nonsensical ramble.
But I think it is an act. Marty is not imparting any "data." He's conveying a feeling and establishing a position. He is no longer a person who is going to criticize Scientology, Hubbard, or Miscavige, nor is he going to reflect critically on his own evolution or something as basic as what caused this shift in his thinking.
I'm doing a second post on Pt. 11, because Marty's review on Leah's segment about Paulette Cooper is an especially nutty ramble. He characterizes the episode as being a "mutual stroke fest" over "stuff" that went on, and it was stuff they were "tasked with abolishing," and that got "settled." No mention of what this stuff was.
Or, rather, he insinuates that Paulette's settlement was the result of an old story where Paulette Cooper "had a beef with Scientology and settled it." See folks? Cooper had a beef with Scientology and settled it. That's the whole story. Nothing to see here. Move on.
He doesn't mention the most basic things like Paulette Cooper wrote a book, or that Scientology framed her for making a bomb threat she didn't make. That's all part of the "stuff" that went on which is not worth mentioning, because it happened years ago.
Here are Marty's own words in Pt. 11, and the segments I'm leaving out do not clarify any of this:
The stuff she alleged, we were young men when we first got involved in handling this stuff. We were dealing with activities that we were tasked with abolishing, and did, at that time. And he's (Rinder) saying 37, 35 years later, "They will do this." And so it's this mutual stroke fest, this series which is degenerating progressively more and more into. So they're stroking Cooper for all this stuff she would settle satisfactorily 35 years ago, and acting as if Scientology will do those things now, right? With no predicate or basis.
It's this mutual stroke fest which is a creation on top of a creation. They're creating Paulette Cooper into something that exists in the present, and she's creating them as serving some useful purpose, and it's all just a creation of their imaginations.
Although he's getting caught up in his own jumble of words, Marty sounds like he said Paulette Cooper doesn't exist in the present. He is trying to deny that Paulette was followed and monitored by the cult years after she received a settlement, and with that he's suggesting the cult would never have anyone followed today, although he doesn't come out and say that. He just thinks his jumble of words will lead listeners to that conclusion.
Does Pat Broeker exist only in the past? Is Shelly Miscavige only in the past? How about L. Ron Hubbard, he in the past too, therefore not worth bringing up?
If Marty ever rambled this incomprehensibly when he was making an appearance on TV, being critical of either Miscavige or Hubbard, it was edited out.
I suppose that an analog for this series by Marty is the PR videos put out by Scientology where Scientologists enthuse about things, and often say total nonsense like, "I didn't know, but now I know." It's not about the content which matters, but you're supposed to catch the wave of enthusiasm and want to take that course or level to have your mind blown.
So the viewer of Marty's series is supposed to ride Marty's wave of critical thinking and knowingness concerning the critics of Scientology, which is bizarre because the cult has said he's a lunatic, which is backed up in part by this nonsensical ramble.
But I think it is an act. Marty is not imparting any "data." He's conveying a feeling and establishing a position. He is no longer a person who is going to criticize Scientology, Hubbard, or Miscavige, nor is he going to reflect critically on his own evolution or something as basic as what caused this shift in his thinking.
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Lurker5
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I think mawtee might be stroking his 'fest' - maybe that is what he is looking at when he looks down.
(Am I allowed to say stuff like this?
)
He sure is getting off on himself . . .
And we are all disgusted he is doing this in public.
Isn't there some 'rule' in scno/co$ that forbids playing with one's self?
Or is it dm he is doing (even if just in fantasy) ?
Either way, isn't there a scno/co$ RULE and punishments for that kind of self indulgence - in public?
He should be 'fessing' THAT up . . .
Gives whole new meaning to the term 'whack job' - as in - He's a real 'whack job".
(Am I allowed to say this stuff?)
(Am I allowed to say stuff like this?
)He sure is getting off on himself . . .
And we are all disgusted he is doing this in public.
Isn't there some 'rule' in scno/co$ that forbids playing with one's self?
Or is it dm he is doing (even if just in fantasy) ?
Either way, isn't there a scno/co$ RULE and punishments for that kind of self indulgence - in public?
He should be 'fessing' THAT up . . .
Gives whole new meaning to the term 'whack job' - as in - He's a real 'whack job".
(Am I allowed to say this stuff?
)
Type4_PTS
Diamond Invictus SP
I don't often agree with the CoS, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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ExposedPerfidy
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I think mawtee might be goofing the floof - maybe that is what he is looking at when he looks down.
(Am I allowed to say stuff like this?
Fixed.
anonomog
Gold Meritorious Patron
Sunday is Karen, Ron Miscavige and Mike's turn.
Word salad, rambling, almost incoherent.
Karen pays for everybody to do everything and anything. By the sounds of it Karen could finance first world governments. Probably does. Jeez Karen who knew!
Except Marty who won't be bought. Ever. No not him. Uh uh. Nope. Right. Okay? Maybe just a little but not where it mattered unlike the other two degenerates.
David Miscavige is the son every parent wants. Joined the SO because drugs and his generation going downhill and the miracle asthma cure. Hallelujah praise xenu.
Ron so feeble minded one google search changed 80 years of faith. No consistency obviously, except for 80 years. Slacker.
What else. Rinder money grubbing fame whore spotlight hog. Daaamn. He sure hides it well.
Leah. Well Leah makes everything up for effect and every one in the ASC just lets it go. As long as it tells the story. Weird thing there. I have been corrected a number of times by exes and concepts explained. I wonder where they have all gone?
Hmm. They are still here. I'll ask them.
Word salad, rambling, almost incoherent.
Karen pays for everybody to do everything and anything. By the sounds of it Karen could finance first world governments. Probably does. Jeez Karen who knew!
Except Marty who won't be bought. Ever. No not him. Uh uh. Nope. Right. Okay? Maybe just a little but not where it mattered unlike the other two degenerates.
David Miscavige is the son every parent wants. Joined the SO because drugs and his generation going downhill and the miracle asthma cure. Hallelujah praise xenu.
Ron so feeble minded one google search changed 80 years of faith. No consistency obviously, except for 80 years. Slacker.
What else. Rinder money grubbing fame whore spotlight hog. Daaamn. He sure hides it well.
Leah. Well Leah makes everything up for effect and every one in the ASC just lets it go. As long as it tells the story. Weird thing there. I have been corrected a number of times by exes and concepts explained. I wonder where they have all gone?
Hmm. They are still here. I'll ask them.
Boson Wog Stark
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The purpose of Leah's show is stated on its website:
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath gives a voice to victims of the Church of Scientology despite public attempts to discredit them.
It seems like a fair description. Obviously, this hurts the goal of Scientology, its current math, to make money, make money, make more money, improving the lives of everyone who does Scientology, while destroying or at least intimidating anyone who speaks against it, branding them as bigots or anti-religion.
Besides warding off raw meat from joining, Leah's show accomplishes something which wouldn't be allowed when Scientology becomes the law one day: having ex-members speak out about their experiences in Scientology. From seeing Leah's show, many ex-members of Scientology are going to get the idea they'd like to speak out. Scientology can't have that!
In all his babbling, the thing Marty can't say is how he was spied upon and tormented for speaking out about his experiences in Scientology, and what he thought of David Miscavige. He's yet to explain why he thinks other people, like on Leah's show, should not be allowed to talk about their experiences or, rather, need to have their experiences assessed through the critical filter of super SP, kingpin of the "Posse of Lunatics" (according to Freedom Magazine) turned critic of the critics, Marty Rathbun.
It's not like he worked with any of these people, except for Rinder, maybe, as closely as he worked with David Miscavige, whom he compared to Hitler. Marty said in a deposition this wasn't being critical. Marty thought of it as factual, probably, like Hubbard almost being hit by a freight locomotive on Venus? Hubbard said that was factual, so you know it couldn't be his imagination. I mention this because Marty thinks that most recollections of bad things which happened to victims of Scientology is just their imaginations. Scientology couldn't possibly hurt anyone. It's a philosophy!
Through its policy/philosophy/science/religion, Scientology expects members who leave to spend their next trillion years shivering in darkness and complete silence, relative to talking about what they experienced in Scientology. No comment on how ludicrous that is, Marty? That's justified by Hubbard's dumpster load of books is it?
Scientology can't enforce the silence of its ex-members or other victims anymore, so it's time to send in the one man SP video cavalry, critic of the critics, Marty Rathbun.
Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath gives a voice to victims of the Church of Scientology despite public attempts to discredit them.
It seems like a fair description. Obviously, this hurts the goal of Scientology, its current math, to make money, make money, make more money, improving the lives of everyone who does Scientology, while destroying or at least intimidating anyone who speaks against it, branding them as bigots or anti-religion.
Besides warding off raw meat from joining, Leah's show accomplishes something which wouldn't be allowed when Scientology becomes the law one day: having ex-members speak out about their experiences in Scientology. From seeing Leah's show, many ex-members of Scientology are going to get the idea they'd like to speak out. Scientology can't have that!
In all his babbling, the thing Marty can't say is how he was spied upon and tormented for speaking out about his experiences in Scientology, and what he thought of David Miscavige. He's yet to explain why he thinks other people, like on Leah's show, should not be allowed to talk about their experiences or, rather, need to have their experiences assessed through the critical filter of super SP, kingpin of the "Posse of Lunatics" (according to Freedom Magazine) turned critic of the critics, Marty Rathbun.
It's not like he worked with any of these people, except for Rinder, maybe, as closely as he worked with David Miscavige, whom he compared to Hitler. Marty said in a deposition this wasn't being critical. Marty thought of it as factual, probably, like Hubbard almost being hit by a freight locomotive on Venus? Hubbard said that was factual, so you know it couldn't be his imagination. I mention this because Marty thinks that most recollections of bad things which happened to victims of Scientology is just their imaginations. Scientology couldn't possibly hurt anyone. It's a philosophy!
Through its policy/philosophy/science/religion, Scientology expects members who leave to spend their next trillion years shivering in darkness and complete silence, relative to talking about what they experienced in Scientology. No comment on how ludicrous that is, Marty? That's justified by Hubbard's dumpster load of books is it?
Scientology can't enforce the silence of its ex-members or other victims anymore, so it's time to send in the one man SP video cavalry, critic of the critics, Marty Rathbun.
