Mike "I'm All About the Crimes" Rinder

[Alanzo]

Type 4 PTS

The former FBI agent that was in the Aftermath finale did claim that civil lawsuits do have value, and open the door to later prosecution.

Should the FBI choose to act at some point I'm sure they'll find testimony taken under oath against the CoS in these civil lawsuits valuable.
The suit filed yesterday accuses the church of sexual battery, racketeering and conspiracy.

How many lawsuits have you seen come and go in the last 20 years?

How many have produced criminal prosecutions?

Zero.

Have you even verified that this dude was an FBI agent? I'll bet you haven't.

I'll bet you just swallowed it whole because MIKE AND LEAH!!

 

[lotus]

Alanzo: When it quacks like a duck...looks like a duck and behaves like a duck. It's a duck.

How could you work when you spend all day attacking critics of Scientology. Every.Single.Day!
Mike Rinder and Leah Remini are the #1 enemy of David Misavige and Scientology. Who do you attack day in and day out? Mike Rinder and Leah Remini.

Your behavior gives you away.

What does your activities attacking Critic's of Scientology create value for? OSA - and no one else.
You are trying to throw us off your scent of being busted. That IS what OSA does. I know too because I have a relative who was OSA and has shared with me all of the tactics OSA They checked you out and have concluded you are working for the cult of Scientology and are on the pay roll of OSA.

Ditto!
As soon as He began to shoot on anyone disagreeing with him or speaking out about COS abuses, none to say his extensive use of rhetoric , and "Marty - his buddy" exact same pattern, smearing, his and nasty behavior,

I concluded either one or the other:
1) Mental illness or severe personnality disorder
2) Osa goon ( being the guy paid to "enturbulate" all boards, groups, and blogs..I can't believe he does it for free )

One way or the other, there is no discussion to expect but only his agenda pushing and those insults, fallacies, lies, smearing to destroy all the informative work ESMBers have done over a decade and Emma's legacy.

But he didn't figured out he was to encounter people who are smarter than he is and that another board was to be settled.

Stat: Total Fail

Although he let a nice legacy for lurkers to be enlightened on how these goons operate in their retard attempt to wipe out truth, testimonies, records, and trying to make COS a minority religion and exes fanatics.

So easy to figure out..he pushed way too hard and made so much obvious mistakes showing his total lack of goodwill and fixed ideas.

I don't pity those people for their actions are to help COS to keep abusing people and they know of it.

 

[Emma]

We think you are getting paid by Scientology to attack good, honest critics

He is getting paid by the Church of Scientology's Office of Special Affairs

They typically target exes who are broke and desperate for money.

WE (my friends and I) believe Alanzo is getting paid by Scientology

How could you work when you spend all day attacking critics of Scientology. Every.Single.Day!

They checked you out and have concluded you are working for the cult of Scientology and are on the pay roll of OSA.

2) Osa goon ( being the guy paid to "enturbulate" all boards, groups, and blogs..I can't believe he does it for free )

That's a lot of certainty right there.

I've now had 2 sources come to me with the same lines, and a CERTAINTY that Alanzo is being paid by OSA because of being broke. HH used to post here all day as well but no one considered him to be broke. Why all this certainty about being broke? Is there something people aren't saying? Is there some information floating around the back channel that confirms this idea that Alanzo is broke?

Instead of keeping this valuable information to yourselves, have the balls to post it here.

I dare you.

 

[freethinker]

This is an interesting hypothesis, Out-Ethics.

Tell us more!

Because I criticize Mike Rinder, for instance, who has never revealed a criminal act by David Miscavige or any officer of the Church of Scientology in the 12 years since he's been out? Who constantly distracts from anything that would put anyone into criminal jeopardy and instead waves everyone away from that?

And because I post and re-post Victoria Britton's evidence in the cover up of the likely murder of her son - which implicates David Miscavige and his twin sister Denise Miscavige Gentile?

This is why OSA is paying me?

BONUS QUESTION: Why would you think I'm desperate for money?

I think you are desperate for attention. I think you came here to trash the board and you don't really have a campaign on Mike but are running your crusade to ruin the board.

You have nothing more than what is already in the public record. No one else is doing anything with the information.

 

[freethinker]

You do realize that I could say the same thing about you, right?

I could conclude that by your support and even black PR defense of impotent critics like Mike Rinder who after 12 years will never cough up a crime, you are " doing OSA's work for them."

I could say "if it walks like a duck...." blah blah

Now why haven't I?

You should be careful about accusing impotence when yours is running high here.

 

[Out Effix]

That's a lot of certainty right there.

I've now had 2 sources come to me with the same lines, and a CERTAINTY that Alanzo is being paid by OSA because of being broke. HH used to post here all day as well but no one considered him to be broke. Why all this certainty about being broke? Is there something people aren't saying? Is there some information floating around the back channel that confirms this idea that Alanzo is broke?

Instead of keeping this valuable information to yourselves, have the balls to post it here.

I dare you.

Alanzo's actions are to discredit and attack critics of Scientology.

THAT is the behavior of an OSA Scientology paid goon. Or a not paid goon.

Besides the point.

I don't care really if he is getting paid or not. I don't care if he is unemployed or employed.


The point that I am making and the only thing I really care about is that newbies and lurkers that come here to find out about Scientology don't get confused with Alanzo's confusing information and that they do some digging into the behavior and purpose of OSA so they spot the behavior when it presents itself.

Alanzo has presented this behavior on every ex scientology blog he can find.

He won't let anyone comment on his blog unless it aligns with his purpose - to discredit and attack CRITICS of Scientology who are doing something about it.

That is all I care about.

I am done discussing Alanzo. I think he works for Scientology based on his behavior and once again - I don't care if he is paid or not.

He is out to help Scientology by attacking critics.

 

[JustSheila]

Geese aren't ducks. Duckbill Platypuses aren't ducks. But they quack, look, and behave like ducks.

See? There's that thing you do where you can't differentiate. Geese don't quack. They honk. Platypuses don't quack, either, in fact, they don't make any sound like that. You just made that up. That was a lie. Just because you imagine something is true or similar doesn't make it so.

Imagining things are the same doesn't make it true, Alanzo, no matter how loudly or emphatically or frequently you scream it, and no matter how many sites. Your lies are still lies.

 

[Emma]

I am done discussing Alanzo. I think he works for Scientology based on his behavior and once again - I don't care if he is paid or not.

But you seemed so sure before. This looks like a walk-back to me.

Have you seen the backchannel information that has been passed around?

 

[lotus]

That's a lot of certainty right there.

I've now had 2 sources come to me with the same lines, and a CERTAINTY that Alanzo is being paid by OSA because of being broke. HH used to post here all day as well but no one considered him to be broke. Why all this certainty about being broke? Is there something people aren't saying? Is there some information floating around the back channel that confirms this idea that Alanzo is broke?

Instead of keeping this valuable information to yourselves, have the balls to post it here.

I dare you.

Again Emma,

As you previously did in quoting me to defend Alanzo's , your are misleading..

I don't have have certainty, neither proof and what I did is expressing freely my impression regarding a prick...keep going on to come to his defense, as you wish, but as I ever mentionned to you, don't expect me to justify to you what I write here.

I tell it as I feel and will continue as I feel, especially as this guy is obviously a TROLL and this not an insult but a fact... Redact it or not..I really don't care...

However I will be glad that you call the troll to post his proofs regarding all his smearing, lies, false assumptions...

And don't expect a grudge match with me!

This is true
Lotus
Anti-cult of Scientology abuses.

 

[Out Effix]

But you seemed so sure before. This looks like a walk-back to me.

Have you seen the backchannel information that has been passed around?

I don't know what you are talking about and frankly do not care.

I am clear about what I said. You seem confused. I am done discussing Alanzo.

I will say it one last time - I believe Alanzo - based on his behavior all over the internet on the subject of Scientology - works for Scientology blasting, attacking critics who are doing something about the evil crimes the cult commits.


If you don't get it - it's okay.

Others get it and I am done.

Bye - Bye!

 

[Emma]

As you previously did in quoting me to defend Alanzo's , your are misleading..

How am I misleading? I quoted your post and your certainty.

I don't have have certainty, neither proof and what I did is expressing freely my thought

I think you do have proof.

And don't expect a grudge match with me!

Have you seen the email Lotus? A simple yes or no will do.

 

[Out Effix]

Again Emma,

As you previously did in quoting me to defend Alanzo's , your are misleading..

I don't have have certainty, neither proof and what I did is expressing freely my impression regarding a prick...keep going on to come to his defense, as you wish, but as I ever mentionned to you, don't expect me to justify to you what I write here.

I tell it as I feel and will continue as I feel, especially as this guy is obviously a TROLL and this not an insult but a fact... Redact it or not..I really don't care...

However I will be glad that you call the troll to post his proofs regarding all his smearing, lies, false assumptions...

And don't expect a grudge match with me!

This is true
Lotus
Anti-cult of Scientology abuses.

Good job Lotus. No grudge match from me either.

I wish you all well.

 

[Alanzo]

How am I misleading? I quoted your post and your certainty.

I think you do have proof.

Have you seen the email Lotus? A simple yes or no will do.

Emma -

You mention an email here.

What are you talking about?

 

[Emma]

Emma -

You mention an email here.

What are you talking about?

I'd prefer another to answer that question, but if that fails, I will tell you and everyone else what has been going on. Let's see if anyone else will have the balls.

 

[Bill]

I know that @Alanzo came here with an agenda. He has been whining, complaining, lecturing and posturing from the very beginning. His agenda obviously included promoting CoS attacks and sowing upset and "enturbulation".

But is he OSA? I personally doubt it, but maybe he is. Who cares? If Alanzo is the best that OSA can bring, we have no worries. He is silly, he is obvious, he is pompous and bombastic.

Sure, he brings up one good point: No one is above criticism ... except for Alanzo. But I already believed that no one was above criticism including Alanzo.

He's a fun mousey to play with too.

 

[Emma]

Good job Lotus. No grudge match from me either.

Why would this turn into a grudge match? I'm not sure I understand. Aren't we simply discussing the certainty that Alanzo is broke? I mean, there is certainty here right?

 

[The_Fixer]

Ah. The backchannel stuff.

I have sent a couple of PMs, but that's really about it, almost all of what I have to say is out there on the board.

Safe to say that I don't really engage in it.

So most of this angst stems from the backchannels?

Back channel stats:

 

[lotus]

How am I misleading? I quoted your post and your certainty.

I think you do have proof.

Have you seen the email Lotus? A simple yes or no will do.

Pfit....

You are totally out of the track Emma...
And don't ever attempt to make me part of any back channel dirty things...I am a person known to speak openly and to never participate in" hord" stuff. I hate that.
No..I don't have a clue of what you are talking about.

You have a basic knowledge of the person I am..so anyone who can tell I am part of , or having been part of backchannel dirty stuff..go ahead...tell now..Otherwise Emma don't associate me to any clan stuff please. It's a big NO.


Okay????

And don't expect I do an investigation on Alanzo for what his nasty behavior lead many people to speculate his motive. No interest .

 

[Lurker5]

huh? What is going on?

 

[lotus]

Ah. The backchannel stuff.

I have sent a couple of PMs, but that's really about it, almost all of what I have to say is out there on the board.

Safe to say that I don't really engage in it.

So most of this angst stems from the backchannels?

Back channel stats:

Wow I thought you would have forwarded it to me.
Don't speak to me anymore!