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New SP Times article: Former Scientology insiders describe a world of coercion

Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
Oooo, now in the comments section the OSA Bots are saying that I have a long history of adultery. That's just libelous. I knew this was coming but that's just hilarious. Too bad ya can't prove who these sock puppet dudes are.

They ALWAYS try to discredit women with the same old tired line.

I'm at work & can't watch the video till I get home but I'm sooo looking forward to seeing you speak Sindy!! :biggrin:
 

NCSP

Patron Meritorious
I think I just got someone to admit to sockpuppetry!

old timer Nov 13, 2011 9:03 PM
True Marian, but not as dull as JackParsons (below). Jack is one of those people who revels in anonymous criticism. But is incapable of any constructive activity. And I speak as one who has known him personally for a long time.

NCSP Nov 13, 2011 9:09 PM
Speaking of reveling in anonymous criticism, is "old timer" the name that appears on your birth certificate?

old timer Nov 13, 2011 9:26 PM
Yes Mr NCSP. My friends call me "old," but to you it is "Mr. Timer."

NCSP Nov 13, 2011 9:32 PM
I take it then that you also prefer to remain anonymous. I don't begrudge you that right -- and it is your right. Just try not to be such a hypocrite about it.

old timer Nov 13, 2011 10:37 PM
We've had this conversation before NCSP, although we were both using other socks at the time. You are one of those hypocrites who believe in freedom of speech . . . as long as people follow your rules and don't upset you.

NCSP Nov 13, 2011 11:26 PM
I have pointed out before that anonymous people shouldn't condemn others for being anonymous, yes. But I've never used another screen name. I obviously have no way of proving that, but at least I have the personal satisfaction of knowing that I'm not guilty of sockpuppetry and you freely admit that you are.

They must be really upset -- they're slipping!
 

Gadfly

Crusader
They ALWAYS try to discredit women with the same old tired line.

I'm at work & can't watch the video till I get home but I'm sooo looking forward to seeing you speak Sindy!! :biggrin:

Christ, didn't the president of the United States "commit adultery". Who cares?

The fact that somebody screws a few or many other people outside of a marriage has almost NOTHNG to do with how they pretty much function in all others areas of life (despite the nonsense Hubbard wrote about "out-2D" and "2D rules"). Including "telling the truth about a great many things".

I suspect that people don't really care too much about accusations of adultery these days, at least surely not like they did when Hubbard wrote his nonsense 40-50 years ago. Continued honest reports abpout the fraud, flaws and faults of Scientology will not go away by a few flimsy accusations of "adultery". Who actually accepts and believes anonymous comments from pro-Scientologists?
 

Emma

Con te partirò
Administrator
Christ, didn't the president of the United States "commit adultery". Who cares?

The fact that somebody screws a few or many other people outside of a marriage has almost NOTHNG to do with how they pretty much function in all others areas of life (despite the nonsense Hubbard wrote about "out-2D" and "2D rules"). Including "telling the truth about a great many things".

I suspect that people don't really care too much about accusations of adultery these days, at least surely not like they did when Hubbard wrote his nonsense 40-50 years ago.

Yeah I know, but my point is that Synthia could be a born again virgin & they'll still try the "adulteress" line. They think it actually bothers people in 2011.
 

Sindy

Crusader
And, even if you "were guilty of adultery", how does that change the TRUTH that you spoke about Scientology? :confused2:

There is something I never understood about Scientology tactics. How does getting someone to be viewed as as any sort of "criminal" change the truthfulness or legitimacy about what they have stated about the flaws and faults of Scientology? Plus, by now, any person who reads anything on the Internet should know that Scientology lies about ANY person who criticizes them, and Scn tries to portray them as "nasty criminals" in some flimsy attempt to get others to "not pay attention to the accurate & honest words of the critic". Scientology is just SO TRANSPARENT. They are SUCH IMBECILES. And, the world sees that more and more clearly as each new day passes. tick -tock

Note: If there is no truth to the accusations, too bad there isn't a way to trace WHO posted the libelous statements and SUE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM. OSA tactics back at them! Overwhelming lawsuits against THEM! :thumbsup:

There is no truth to that and I would love to do that. They just think nothing of throwing out total character assassination lies like that...have no compunction at all. I asked the person to name names..let's go. I mean, they can't.

I would think a person with any kind of conscience at all would feel bad about telling lies after awhile but, I bet what happens is that the OSA Bots are told the lies by people who really don't care about lying and so they pass it on, not thinking they are lying.

It's not just adultery, it's "a long history" of adultery! It really is laughable. If that's true, why did they have me on staff. :laugh:
 

NCSP

Patron Meritorious
Yeah I know, but my point is that Synthia could be a born again virgin & they'll still try the "adulteress" line. They think it actually bothers people in 2011.

I wonder if they do it in Europe. Probably looks even more ridiculous there.

Anyway, there's no need to worry. Nobody trusts Scientology, not even most Scientologists.
 

Gadfly

Crusader
Yeah I know, but my point is that Synthia could be a born again virgin & they'll still try the "adulteress" line. They think it actually bothers people in 2011.

Yes, the tactic is as old as politics. Attempt to associate the person who says things you don't like with some behavior viewed as a negative attribute by the general public (in this case "adultery" by a FEMALE :omg: :omg: :omg:). The same idea appears in politics where some adversary gets "caught in a slander" - that hopefully now makes nobody listen to or trust the fellow.

Veda has posted the references where Hubbard explains HOW to do this - to associate "enemies" with qualities currently considered unsavory by some "public" or "target audience". It is like "reverse advertising". Again, they are SUCH imbeciles.

Well Scientologists can be so "provincial" and "puritanical", seemingly operating with a 1950s mindset. You are so right. Nobody gives a shit in 2011 (except the deluded Scientolgists).
 

Purple Rain

Crusader
There is no truth to that and I would love to do that. They just think nothing of throwing out total character assassination lies like that...have no compunction at all. I asked the person to name names..let's go. I mean, they can't.

I would think a person with any kind of conscience at all would feel bad about telling lies after awhile but, I bet what happens is that the OSA Bots are told the lies by people who really don't care about lying and so they pass it on, not thinking they are lying.

It's not just adultery, it's "a long history" of adultery! It really is laughable. If that's true, why did they have me on staff. :laugh:

If they understood ordinary people they'd know this reflects badly on them, not you.

:mirror:
 

Gadfly

Crusader
There is no truth to that and I would love to do that. They just think nothing of throwing out total character assassination lies like that...have no compunction at all. I asked the person to name names..let's go. I mean, they can't.

I would think a person with any kind of conscience at all would feel bad about telling lies after awhile but, I bet what happens is that the OSA Bots are told the lies by people who really don't care about lying and so they pass it on, not thinking they are lying.

It's not just adultery, it's "a long history" of adultery! It really is laughable. If that's true, why did they have me on staff. :laugh:

Remember Syn, Hubbard clearly explains in church policy that "if you are with us, we forgive you of any and all crimes". "We hold nothing against you IF you are helping us meet deadline Earth". "Every human being alive has made mistakes, and we ONLY care about your current intentions and actions".

But "if you are against us, then there is no stone that we will leave unturned to find the dirt on you". And, "if we can't find the dirt, since we KNOW IT MUST BE THERE, because you ARE an SP and MUST "have crimes" per LRH, we will make it up and even frame you in crimes that you never committed". There is a long documented history of Scientology doing exactly those sort of things.

People are taught in Scientology to treat "assisting Scientology" as the highest value. ANY person who "harms Scientology" is an "SP", and can be lied to, lied about, and even harmed. There are no safeguards or rights for an "SP". They take that and APPLY THAT quite seriously. The normal "conscience" is reduced by participation with Scientology, because ALL ethics is gauged on whether ANY action helps or hinders Scientology. To them there is no other yardstick of measurement.

These Scientology nutters would have a bad conscience if they DIDN'T LIE about you!!!!!!! Remember, concepts of right and wrong are all relative. In Scientology all concepts of right and wrong relate ONLY to whether any action helps or hinders Scientology. To them, "dead-agenting" YOU is a "good thing", and is the "ethical thing to do" (greatest good).
 
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jenni with an eye

Silver Meritorious Patron
It's not just adultery, it's "a long history" of adultery! It really is laughable. If that's true, why did they have me on staff. :laugh:

:yes:

If they understood ordinary people they'd know this reflects badly on them, not you.

:mirror:

:yes: these slanderous measures really do show every day people just how desperate the cofs has become.

:dieslaughing:

They really are making a laughing stock of themselves :footbullet: :hysterical:
 

Operating DB

Truman Show Dropout
Re: New Video: Basically Obsessed

Just watch Synthia's interview

Synthia you were talking with no hesitation - a to b - direct to the point of what it is.
Well done.

Yep. Agreed. Synthia came off as a pro! Kudos to Synthia! YAY!
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation
Yeah I know, but my point is that Synthia could be a born again virgin & they'll still try the "adulteress" line. They think it actually bothers people in 2011.



:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

Yeah, true ... but they're stuck in the 50's!!!

I refused point blank to buy the 'basics' and eventually they delivered a full set to my front door (I'd told them very clearly not to) ... luckily I caught the hapless courier as he was unloading them and had him take them away and send them straight back to the cofs at considerable cost, the poor man was stunned but I explained very nicely (lol) that it was the cofs trying to force me to accept unwanted scientology books.

They couldn't even give them away properly!

Hey, Synthia you were great ... and you look beautiful too.

:yes:
 

Gadfly

Crusader
:yes: these slanderous measures really do show every day people just how desperate the cofs has become.

:dieslaughing:

They really are making a laughing stock of themselves :footbullet: :hysterical:

I would only comment that the Church of Scientology has ALWAYS practiced slander as one of many methods used to try to silence or negate the statements of critics. They haven't recently or suddenly just begun to resort to such tactics "out of desperation". While they probably are getting more desperate with each passing day, their tactics are the same tried and true tactics that they have used for the past MANY years (back to the GO and probably earlier).

Yes, they ARE making a laughing stock of themselves. They have always been quite good at THAT. :thumbsup:

If you closely follow Hubbard's "critic and enemy handling tech", you can't help but eventually shoot yourself in the foot! :footbullet:
 

Div6

Crusader
Oooo, now in the comments section the OSA Bots are saying that I have a long history of adultery. That's just libelous. I knew this was coming but that's just hilarious. Too bad ya can't prove who these sock puppet dudes are.

Ya know, I was thinking about this the other day:

Why is it that if a MAN has lots of lovers he is wise, virile and fortunate, but if a WOMAN has lots of lovers, she is derided, degraded and vile.

Isn't that the epitome of a hypocritical double standard? A "computation" generated to dominate? Can you say Ser Fac? I knew you could....


Rock on Synth! I'd just turn it right back at them with LRon's final words:
"For truth is truth, and if they then
Decide to live with lies.
That's their concern, not mine my friend,
they're free to fantasize."
 

jenni with an eye

Silver Meritorious Patron
I would only comment that the Church of Scientology has ALWAYS practiced slander as one of many methods used to try to silence or negate the statements of critics. They haven't recently or suddenly just begun to resort to such tactics "out of desperation".


:yes: I and I'm sure, many others are very well aware of the fact that this "practised slander" by the cofs has been used for a very very very long time.

I do know this is not a 'recent' turn of events.

These ancient tactics have been used by the cofs for so long... :omg:even before I was born !!! :giggle:

Needless to say...it don't work :footbullet: :biggrin:
 

Operating DB

Truman Show Dropout
It's easy to get riled up at the scio's comments about the videos. But the only people that would agree with those posts are other scios. I'm sure 99% of non-scio public who happens to read those inane posts are shaking their head in disbelief at how loony scientologists really are.

Dear scio posters, please keep foot-bulleting away!
 

Purple Rain

Crusader
It's easy to get riled up at the scio's comments about the videos. But the only people that would agree with those posts are other scios. I'm sure 99% of non-scio public who happens to read those inane posts are shaking their head in disbelief at how loony scientologists really are.

Dear scio posters, please keep foot-bulleting away!

Does anyone have a link for the comments? My blood pressure needs a bit of a workout!
 

NCSP

Patron Meritorious
Does anyone have a link for the comments? My blood pressure needs a bit of a workout!

Oh, they're at the bottom of each article's page. It's a pretty classic rumble. :)

I'm a little embarrassed for getting caught up in it, but it's just so damn much fun!
 

Karen#1

Gold Meritorious Patron
:yes: I and I'm sure, many others are very well aware of the fact that this "practised slander" by the cofs has been used for a very very very long time.

I do know this is not a 'recent' turn of events.

These ancient tactics have been used by the cofs for so long... :omg:even before I was born !!! :giggle:

Needless to say...it don't work :footbullet: :biggrin:


Cindy ! The Adulterer !

Listen to this. As I keep exposing the ABUSE and especially Miscavige ABUSE,
they are now say I am/was a Call Girl !

First I was a peddlar of children for underage Sex !

But no one swallowed that. Then they claimed I am /was a honeypot for a Russian Spy !

Then they claimed I was the MISTRESS of a British Politician !
(I was the 2d of a British Politician, and he was wealthy and generous, but I was his girlfriend) ~~ this is from my early early pc folders and has now been spun to the fact that I was ::::drum roll:::::


A Mistress !!!!!!!
:confused2::confused2::confused2:

And in a more escalated way perhaps to please Miscavige, in these hate malicious sites I am named as a Call girl ! (They only JUST discovered that I am a call girl a week ago since I started the ABUSE thread) :duh::duh:

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
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