Jachs

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Over the last 6 months or so the number of staff at OSA Int has dropped to a third or a quarter it seems.
Now 21, down from 75-100.

I gather that the first post on the thread below will be a running account of known people in OSA. The main source of this info is Chuck Beeaty who has generally been a reliable source of information.


http://forums.enturbulation.org/showthread.php?t=7434

The above link at enturbulation.org is dead.
 

got_the_T_shirt

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Wow. Around 1994 there were 132 of them, per my online list.

Paul

Well I can say that both myself and my ex were on at OSA Int at that time and neither of us appear on the list. Actually there are several people missing from the list. Hopefully bunches of the "no longer present" got declared, too, thus giving them the necessary kick in the ass they needed to go out and taste the real world.
 
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Petey C

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Interesting list (and tragic to see how many old mates are still in).

But why do so many women have "Mr" in front of their name? Are they gender-confused?
 

Dulloldfart

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I was a Staff Courses Sup in ITO. The full list was a list of my HGB students I created to help on my post, that I used to automatically chit people who didn't come to study. Some people never ever studied in my courseroom — maybe they were KTL students or "exempt" or something — and so were never placed on the list. It was never intended to be a full personnel list, but it included most people in the HGB and since I had it I decided to put it online.

The "Mr." thing was local politics. In chits, reports, and real life that is how they were addressed from my position. After I left the SO I could never be bothered to edit that list to make it look more sensible. Female officers are standardly addressed as "Sir" in the SO, and "Mrs" doesn't go with "Sir." :D

Paul
 

Iknowtoomuch

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The lower number of staff in OSA is not from being better at their jobs but I bet from them being so defensive they want as few as possible having access to their data. Keep in mind there is still OSA at PAC where they did the compiling of information for court cases.
 

Challenge

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Nancy O'Meara was once Nancy French, or simply "French" when in the Finance Bureau GOWW in the 70s. While at OSA Int she was involved with CAN for many years.

Leisa Goodman was Leisa Collins from Auckland, New Zealand. I can even remember her street address there from when I was a Letter Reg at SH around 1977. She was PR Aide for a while, and spokeshole for the Squish.

These are long-long-term SO people, and would have interesting tales to tell, just like Rinder. Anyone know their circumstances? They are listed as "route-outs", but I heard Rinder blew, so maybe some of the others blew too.

Paul

Eunice Ford died.

chlng
 

got_the_T_shirt

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The lower number of staff in OSA is not from being better at their jobs but I bet from them being so defensive they want as few as possible having access to their data. Keep in mind there is still OSA at PAC where they did the compiling of information for court cases.

OSA at PAC was OSA Int too, they joined so that the Programs Bureau staff could all work together as one. For a while it was split between PAC and the HGB and then they all moved over to the HGB top two floors. The people on the list were at both places depending on when you're talking about.
 

Dulloldfart

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:( Dunno what Eunice was like when she was young or how she got there but at OSAI she was a sweet old lady. Many a conversation about the merits of juicing, none about work or Scn.

Yeah. I often saw her down in the galley juicing her carrots. I don't think I ever saw her eating or drinking anything else, although I suppose she did.

Paul
 

Petey C

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I was a Staff Courses Sup in ITO. The full list was a list of my HGB students I created to help on my post, that I used to automatically chit people who didn't come to study. Some people never ever studied in my courseroom — maybe they were KTL students or "exempt" or something — and so were never placed on the list. It was never intended to be a full personnel list, but it included most people in the HGB and since I had it I decided to put it online.

The "Mr." thing was local politics. In chits, reports, and real life that is how they were addressed from my position. After I left the SO I could never be bothered to edit that list to make it look more sensible. Female officers are standardly addressed as "Sir" in the SO, and "Mrs" doesn't go with "Sir." :D

Paul

I'd forgotten. I was often addressed as "sir" in the SO but never as "Mr". The whole SO nomenclature thing stinks, 'f'y'ask me.
 

Challenge

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:( Dunno what Eunice was like when she was young or how she got there but at OSAI she was a sweet old lady. Many a conversation about the merits of juicing, none about work or Scn.[/QUOTE

Eunice was a sweet lady. Young or no. Eunice could juice a bushel of carrots in one sitting.
She was being Chaplain for ASHO Day when I knew her.

chlng
 

InExile

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Goodness, looking at the list i knew 90% on a personal level... OSA US and OSA INT where one in the same for lack of a better word as both work together at one time or another.

Yes Rinder blew and it was in the papers etc.. but the real question I wonder what took him so long really.... Opinionated Aussie!

Anyone who knew some of the recent blows: You do wonder why it took them that long.

Both staff where not that big. never have been.

People's character does not change even if you have not seen them for many a year.
 

imSPecial

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I was a Staff Courses Sup in ITO. The full list was a list of my HGB students I created to help on my post, that I used to automatically chit people who didn't come to study. Some people never ever studied in my courseroom — maybe they were KTL students or "exempt" or something — and so were never placed on the list. It was never intended to be a full personnel list, but it included most people in the HGB and since I had it I decided to put it online.


Paul


i know this is an old thread but its been a few years since i looked at esmb.

paul (hi!) you have NO idea how validating it was to read this little anecdotal comment. i cant believe I actually burst into tears after reading it. I have been aware of your staff list for several years now and always wondered why i was not on it. it took me a great deal of time to escape. I said i wanted to leave, i had several total breakdowns (with all of the consequential shit that goes with such heinous thoughts and activities). appeals to my family (inners) and "friends" brought silence and expectations to straighten up. i was suicidal at points. i wasnt exempt or on ktl, though. i was followed, escorted. it took me a significant period of time to lay low and get the dogs off my heels so that i could actually reasonably be thought to be on board to have enough freedom of movement to get out. my new posting after that period kept me so tired i would have needed a week off to catch up on sleep first. and thats what i appreciate about your comment...i was so absent i didnt even rate being on your auto chit list! i was, i thought, a few months away from being ready to make a run when i, thankfully, overheard a comment that made me know i had to get out of there within hours. on that day i was so scared i was throwing up.
 

Karen#1

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Don't know where to ask this, so I will ask on this thread.

Can anyone identify this person, OSA PI ? OSA Lawyer ?
(He was surreptiously taking pictures of Ex-Scientologists at the Courthouse)
AnonyMary? Smurf ?

PI.Janis.jpg
 
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AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Looks familiar, Karen, but I just can't place him. Hopefully Garry might.

BTW, not sure if you have seen this old up through 2007 list of PIs on my scribd. Includes some photos. I mirrored from Internet archive since original went off line. The PI Ed Richardson, who went after your friend and neighbor Ingrid recently, is shown here

Info on Scientology's Private Investigators up to 2007
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19462750/Info-on-Scientology-s-Private-Investigators-up-to-2007#scribd
 

Karen#1

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Looks familiar, Karen, but I just can't place him. Hopefully Garry might.

BTW, not sure if you have seen this old up through 2007 list of PIs on my scribd. Includes some photos. I mirrored from Internet archive since original went off line. The PI Ed Richardson, who went after your friend and neighbor Ingrid recently, is shown here

Info on Scientology's Private Investigators up to 2007
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19462750/Info-on-Scientology-s-Private-Investigators-up-to-2007#scribd

Enormously helpful AnonyMary. I tweeted the PI list already !
Do you have a compilation of their Lawyers ?
Good work Mary !!!!

Nothing like broadcasts to expose it all.
No wonder they never allow any audits of their "charity donations" and annual revenue.
What is the PI bill annually ?
Lawyer bill annually ?

All IRS Tax free $$$$$
 

AnonyMary

Formerly Fooled - Finally Free
Enormously helpful AnonyMary. I tweeted the PI list already !
Do you have a compilation of their Lawyers ?
Good work Mary !!!!

Nothing like broadcasts to expose it all.
No wonder they never allow any audits of their "charity donations" and annual revenue.
What is the PI bill annually ?
Lawyer bill annually ?

All IRS Tax free $$$$$

Glad it is of help. It needs to be updated, lol. As far as a list of attorneys, I don't have one compiled but I would think there is an old one somewhere. Maybe Lermanet.com Check with Arnie

That list was compiled sometime ago by someone else who then stopped paying the annual fee causing it to go off the internet. There are more to add, I know. I would have to create a whole separate site and add all the info and photos into it, which I have no time or skills so do. Maybe someone else can take on the task of putting up a site just about cult attorneys and PIs . It sure would help. I have some info to contribute if needed. If you find a willing person to do this, let me know.
 
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