Scientology Integrity .org 1965

[AnonKat]

http://www.wikiscientology.org/archiv/timetrack/1965s.shtml

07 Feb
Ron writes the PL Keeping Scientology Working

Note:

Please, spare me. Do you think the products of Scientology are LRH's products? They are not. They are the contributions of many great people who did the work, ran the processes. That he put his name to those products gives a total false picture of how the Tech developed.

Jack Horner developed and piloted the repetitive processes. Nib's, Dick and Jan Halpern developed the TR's and CCH's. Charles and Ava Berner developed and brought the Study Tech to LRH. Gordon Bell defined By-passed charge. I developed the original BPC List corrections. Gordon Bell put the Grades together. John McMasters and I developed and piloted the S&D data. John McMasters developed Power. Pam Kemp originated the drug rundown. I originated the Good and Bad indicators.

Could we have done this without LRH, probably not, but LRH could not have done this without us. It is ludicrous to keep harping on LRH....he is dead....he was a lame duck
leader from 1965 onward.....the SO and GO and all the other weird solutions were to handle LRH's mounting legal problems. He did not have clean hands. He ran to England to escape the IRS and tax problems.

Post by Alan Walters to COSinvestigations

Note:

David Mayo wrote the NOTs material.
Ray Mithoff wrote OT VIII after LRH died.
Pat Broeker was working on writing OT 9 through 15 after LRH died.

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[Terril park]

http://www.wikiscientology.org/archiv/timetrack/1965s.shtml



MAIN PAGE

http://www.wikiscientology.org/archiv/timetrack/tt.shtml

The content seems to indicate the McClaughreys. Crazy people.

Where is this from?

 

[AnonKat]

The content seems to indicate the McClaughreys. Crazy people.

Where is this from?

http://www.wikiscientology.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Welcome to the Website of the Free Scientologists for english speaking readers.

"Those of us who were basically interested in Dianetics and Scientology for ourselves and others, today must be informed and must understand that whatever vagaries in our career of research and investigation, whatever organizational upsets we may have had, have never at any time been capable of swerving us from our basic goals and our determination to make it this time. We are making it this time. Whatever you wanted out of Dianetics and Scientology is yours today. It is only necessary for you now to reach out your hand in order to achieve it.

"May I ask you to extend that hand?"

L.Ron Hubbard Ability- Issue 45

The "Freie Scientologen" it a group of independent Scientologists, originally from Germany, but now in several countries in Western Europe.

An extensive German language site can be found under www.FreieScientologen.de.

A small Dutch language site can be found under nederlands.FreieScientologen.de.

For more info click in the left panel on Community Portal.

Everyone with good intentions and who basically agrees with our website is invited to create here and write further dutch articles or insert pictures to the site. The editing is free for users with an account and follows the same rules like in Wikipedia

When you like to translate articles from this or the German site into your language, get in touch with us. We will be happy to publish another site with your language.

And of course, you are welcome to get in comm with us: we are auditing and studying per L. Ron Hubbards Standard Tech, how he left the tech behind, when he was still there in the 70ies.

Have some fun with this site.

Andreas Grosz, Switzerland

P.S.

Here you find a list of all Categories on this site, which is a good start for reading.

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

 

[Terril park]

http://www.wikiscientology.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Yeah.Crazy McClaughreys.

 

[RogerB]

Well, whomever it is/was, this is a very abbreviated and incomplete presentation of HCOB's and content. Some, while cited/listed only contain a couple of lines . . . . as for example his infamous "I've Been to Heaven" tripe . 1963 is represented by about 10-15% of what was actually issued. . . . '62 is no better.

RogerB

 

[AnonyMary]

A google search of the first sentence of what is supposedly written by Alan Walter cannot be found anywhere on the internet but that wiki site, this thread and the scribd copy, posted below, posted at scribd by someone using the nic 123jump, who attributes authorship to the McClaughrys:
We present the Criminal Time Track of Scientology and the Freezone, Issue IV by Mike and Virginia McClaughry, 2005.

Anyone know if Alan Walter actually wrote that? I would think that if he did, it would be all over the internet, at least on ESMB.

 

[AnonKat]

A google search of the first sentence of what is supposedly written by Alan Walter cannot be found anywhere on the internet but that wiki site, this thread and the scribd copy, posted below, posted at scribd by someone using the nic 123jump, who attributes authorship to the McClaughrys:
We present the Criminal Time Track of Scientology and the Freezone, Issue IV by Mike and Virginia McClaughry, 2005.

Anyone know if Alan Walter actually wrote that? I would think that if he did, it would be all over the internet, at least on ESMB.

I am confused is Alan Walters and Alan Walter the same person ? Because there can be found more on Alan Walter


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/xVW-wZOvw3E[1-25-false]

 

[Terril park]

A google search of the first sentence of what is supposedly written by Alan Walter cannot be found anywhere on the internet but that wiki site, this thread and the scribd copy, posted below, posted at scribd by someone using the nic 123jump, who attributes authorship to the McClaughrys:
We present the Criminal Time Track of Scientology and the Freezone, Issue IV by Mike and Virginia McClaughry, 2005.

Anyone know if Alan Walter actually wrote that? I would think that if he did, it would be all over the internet, at least on ESMB.

He's certainly written this sort of thing on ESMB. Best searched via google.

http://www.forum.exscn.net/archive/index.php/t-17164-p-4.html?

When The McClaugreys first took over the forum "COS Investigations " Alan,
Joe Harrington, Birgitta Harrington and Scot Meyer, were members as were many others including myself.

The Scientology timeline was AFAIK mostly created by Ron's Org people with the
Mclaugreys adding just a little.

http://www.freezone.org/timetrack/tt-index.htm

 

[Terril park]

I am confused is Alan Walters and Alan Walter the same person ? Because there can be found more on Alan Walter


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/xVW-wZOvw3E[1-25-false]

The english surname is usually Walters. Walter is unusual and people will often
use Walters by mistake.

 

[AnonKat]

The english surname is usually Walters. Walter is unusual and people will often
use Walters by mistake.

I am going throug this threads right now

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?15003-ALAN-C-WALTER-R-I-P

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...-Story-Additional-Commentary-by-Alan-C-Walter

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?9661-Alan-Walter-Charges-995-Per-Hour

 

[RogerB]

I am confused is Alan Walters and Alan Walter the same person ? Because there can be found more on Alan Walter


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/xVW-wZOvw3E[1-25-false]

There is only one Alan Walter . . . . many folks err in defaulting to and mistakenly referring to him as the more familiar "Walters"

As to the earlier question: did Alan say what is quoted . . . the short answer is yes, but probably not exactly as written on this thread . . . what is written in the OP looks to be a rewrite of several things or paragraphs that Alan did write into one "quote" and paraphrased.

See this ESMB link that gives more links to these remarks by Alan:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...veloped-Tech!!&p=642763&viewfull=1#post642763

Oh, and AnonKat . . . simplest will be this compendium of Alan's ESMB posts here:
http://paulsrabbit.com/The-ESMB-Posts.pdf

 

[AnonKat]

There is only one Alan Walter . . . . many folks err in defaulting to and mistakenly referring to him as the more familiar "Walters"

As to the earlier question: did Alan say what is quoted . . . the short answer is yes, but probably not exactly as written on this thread . . . what is written in the OP looks to be a rewrite of several things or paragraphs that Alan did write into one "quote" and paraphrased.

See this ESMB link that gives more links to these remarks by Alan:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...veloped-Tech!!&p=642763&viewfull=1#post642763

Oh, and AnonKat . . . simplest will be this compendium of Alan's ISMB posts here:
http://paulsrabbit.com/The-ESMB-Posts.pdf

Thank you Roger, that out of 2D was "a bit of rough" was it not.

Post #25 20080405-1805
Alan, Do think that LRH disregarded earlier tech for a easier dumb down version that would
make it easier on auditors to deliver resulting in more delivery = more money, more money.

He was in the middle of GPM running - in September, 1962 he engaged in an out 2D situation that
completely ARC broke his auditor (MSH). At that point he lost his auditor.
Over the next year the sessions began to go bad - lots of out lists and wrong items.......life and Scio
went under attack, he went under attack.
In early 1964 there was also was a massive Ascension Experience when he thought he and his
creation Scientology was going to become a household name - the "Look Magazine Article" - which
ended up being a complete make nothing of him and Scio.
Whilst in the AE state the Opterm or darkside kicked in - he flipped into a tremendously Powerful
SP Identity. These identities do not allow for any two-way flows - they operate from an "I am right -
do what I command or die!" position and action basis.......this builds up tremendous counter-force -
he set about subduing any counter-forces.
The introduction of Ethics LRH style was enforced into Scientology.
The killer of this is: each being feels they are wrong, consequently each you gives itself wrong
items and wrong whys. (BTW it is easier to confront self than the Powerful SP Identity.)
To be sane a being or Organization must be willing to be both total cause and total effect (or right or
wrong) - this allows for the charge travelling back and forth along the command and Organizational
lines to dissipate and the being or Organization to easily operate in PT in a high mood level.
LRH then set about building a replica of an Operating Games Matrix. The FEBC Tech covers the
top part of the Games Matrix - the processing and training tech covers the next level below that -
the Ethics Tech covers the bottom part - though all three span all levels.
For some reason LRH dropped the lower level tech and tried to quickie it - probably felt he was
running out of time.
I know for a fact LRH deliberately omitted Tech that would let people go free......as I inadvertently
did on one experimental process......that process was omitted completely from the Tech Volumes - I
ran it on the 15th Nov 1962.
To my knowledge all Ethics - Tech - and Admin issued by LRH was designed for him to keep
control over the Organizations, staffs, pc's and OTs.
But obviously it did not produce what it promised.
Without doubt LRH was the most dichotomous dramatizing being that one could get entangled
with.

 

[RogerB]

Thank you Roger, that out of 2D was "a bit of rough" was it not.

Yes, LRH was chronically "out 2D" (he has a child on another continent no one talks of) and, as it turned out it seems this is what did him in the most . . . cheating the government on taxes you can get away with (self and others will ignore that) but for him to be holding himself our as one things and then to be violating that standard and upsetting his life partner in MSH seems to be the item that turned him to the dark side and evil . . . and that, I think is what led to the sad story of the Scn saga.

Yes, he was a fraud and a bit of a con man from the go . . . and that might not have done him in, but his out 2D and his professed button on it regards others is probably the hot poker that burned him.

Glad those references got you what you need . . . Post #2 on Pandora's Box begins what you are looking for here:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?33-OPENING-PANDORA-S-BOX-Part-One&p=67&viewfull=1#post67

And there is more in that thread.

R

 

[AnonKat]

Yes, LRH was chronically "out 2D" (he has a child on another continent no one talks of) and, as it turned out it seems this is what did him in the most . . . cheating the government on taxes you can get away with (self and others will ignore that) but for him to be holding himself our as one things and then to be violating that standard and upsetting his life partner in MSH seems to be the item that turned him to the dark side and evil . . . and that, I think is what led to the sad story of the Scn saga.

Yes, he was a fraud and a bit of a con man from the go . . . and that might not have done him in, but his out 2D and his professed button on it regards others is probably the hot poker that burned him.

Glad those references got you what you need . . . Post #2 on Pandora's Box begins what you are looking for here:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?33-OPENING-PANDORA-S-BOX-Part-One&p=67&viewfull=1#post67

And there is more in that thread.

R

I ment the african American Woman he had send over,. I forgot her name Mary Sue had her abort the kid I believe ?


ALSOO JACKPOT !

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?33-OPENING-PANDORA-S-BOX-Part-One&p=120&viewfull=1#post120

bb:

One of the most difficult things to do is report accurately.

For example: I and several other Scio's had dinner with Chuck and Ava Berner at the Forrest Row Hotel, it was June 1964, the night before Chuck and Ava were to meet with LRH to go over this new discovery they made to do with study.

We were all enthralled with what they had discovered.

Imagine the shock we had when LRH told us in a the lecture that night that he had made a momentous discovery in the field of study.

The data he gave was almost word for word with what the Berner's had discussed with us the previous night.

There was no mention of the Berner's who were in the audience.

They were devastated.

What made me sick was I made LRH right to do this......I did not support the Berner's.....I simply went elsewhere.

I put my own survival above my honor......what a price I was to pay for that.

Not only me but all of us.......for I believe that is the moment that LRH went to the dark-side.

That was also the last real lecture on GPM's. It ended mid lecture -abruptly - then he flipped and began to talk about the study tech.

I realize LRH was dichotomous, but so are we all....that is what the GPM Tech was supposed to handle.

Alan

And The Study Tech Wiki needs to be changed by someone with skills

https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/scientology-org-timetrack.114452/#post-2374463

 

[RogerB]

I ment the african American Woman he had send over,. I forgot her name Mary Sue had her abort the kid I believe ?


ALSOO JACKPOT !

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?33-OPENING-PANDORA-S-BOX-Part-One&p=120&viewfull=1#post120




And The Study Tech Wiki needs to be changed by someone with skills

https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/scientology-org-timetrack.114452/#post-2374463

Yes, there was ALSO the Black American he "did it with" while in the US at the Clearing congress. That's the one Alan mentioned on one of his threads . . . but there is more

Rog