The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But

[lkwdblds]

One for the tabloids at the market check out stand!

This class act " dumb Blonde" is still available for consultations
I believe.

Oh, I know she is. One of my friends is one of her consultees.

If she is as dumb a blonde as you infer, maybe she could try out for the part of the Mother of Reece Witherspoon in the sequel of the next dumb blonde movie, " Dumb blonde goes back to college" or whatever ghastly name they come up with.

I may just take your suggestion and consult with her. After all, I am now a celebrity in my own right, hosting this thread (have you checked our views and replies stats lately). I would fit right in as a Celebrity pc, her old Specialty and I hear she has a discount for ex CCLA staff members.
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

Carmelo, can you post a picture of said Big little doggie?

try clicking on this:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/album.php?albumid=14

 

[lkwdblds]

Now, hold on just a second there, Sister!

HANG ON THERE BUCKO!

You said: "Thanks to Carmelo, who spotted something in me that was interesting and tolerable, he caused many Influential beings to come over to this site and I am hosting it and a lot of my personality is present on this thread and I am doing just fine, better than fine."
Au Contraire Pal, YOU started the thread and told YOUR story in an amusing way that got lots of looks and followers. YOU attracted Carmelo to it, and Carmelo may have encouraged you, or encouraged others to come and take a look see, too, (that is what friends do) but they came and stayed because of YOU. YOU are at cause here, celebrate that!

Hold on there just a second Sister!. I was cause for the first 2200 veiws on the Apollo story in March and 4500 hits on the CC story in October and Novermber. I did pull Carmelo in but not because of the brilliance of my story but because he had been involved with CC since before opening day. He put the sign up on the outside of the CC building for Christ's sake! He was hanging around making sure I didn't make any mistakes. He was my qual division. Once his big names tested the water and accessed the thread, they found not only me, but they found a lot of their well connected and influential friends already posting here. I am not denigrating my part in this, not by a long shot. "It took two to tango!"

All the rest of us are at cause over our own lives, too, and helping to co-create this thread. It's a win for us, too.

Finally, SIster, something you said makes sense!

Sounds like you had a good cog, and a win?

I don't know, I thought it was good but Purp didn't see it my way and poured some water on my parade.

Purple Haze is very kind to help you fill in the gaps, nice people are helpful. You have nice friends Lakey, that's something to celebrate, but that says as much about you as it does about them!

Quit jumping to conclusions! Ex CCLA staff always help each other. There is a special bond between we oldtimers. I'd a done the same for her. About the friends, they are all nice, even you, what're you getting at pardner?

I learned it as "Look, Don't Think", but the same general concept applies.

Can I please clear this up, I was NOT critiquing what you wrote, just commenting and seeking more clarity. I'm an academic and I can hardly help myself from going into teacher mode at times- if I have offended, I'm sorry! No critical thought was implied.

I never picked up no critical note, watcha be talking about? A critique is a critique. it doesn't automatically imply criticism. You could critique it as all good.

Lakey, you are just as Big a Being as anybody else here. I'm amazed you didn't know this about yourself!

Sugar, I've been overly modest and shy all my life, those aren't Big Being traits. Can you imagine Ronnie Hubbard being modest or shy? I did think I was smarter than average but being smart does not a Big Being make. The fact that some of these here important City Slicker folks liked reading my stuff and dialogued with me made me think maybe, just maybe I could play in the Major Leagues if I could stop being so gosh darn shy and modest.

Good for you! Now, go ahead and make yourself bigger! Be the star of the show that is your own life!

You only have so much bigness within ya, it ain't infinite. Wutch ya gotta do is use as much of it as ya can. Max out what ya got cuz you can't get no more. Dad gum, you City girls are hard to deal with. Hon, I do appreciate your encouragement and telling me I am the star of my own life. I saw the new Nelson Mandella movie and the great Morgan Freeman mouthed a line of Mandela's, frequently, which I liked, "I am the captain of my own soul" For we ex Scios who believe we don't have a soul but are a soul, a revision would be required, i.e., "I am my own captain" or "I am the captain of my beingness." The Mandella version has much more emotional impact when uttered as poetry so I think we should use it as it is as a metaphor, even though it is not technically incorrect.
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

any group endeavor is a co - creation

 

[hbeer]

LRH references are not too popular here.

The point is that they are BREAKING THEIR OWN LAWS. Instead of applying them.

That specific complication is too often overlooked by the critical public and press.



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[SweetnessandLight]

Good!

Lakey, LOL!

 

[Terril park]

I do wish you would stop calling her a "dumb blonde" Terril, when she is really a blonde angel! (Now redhead!)

Just teasing

We're friends.

 

[RogerB]

Here's a Hubbard Quote . . .

Here's an LRH quote that applies and is worth living up to:

"Never regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow."

The game is not yet ended for us. We each can still win at what we choose to win at. (That's a Rogerism.)

LRH once defined "havingness" as quality of reach.

I like that "quality" factor, as the quality of your continued reach determines whether you will win or not.

RogerB

 

[hbeer]

Here's an LRH quote that applies and is worth living up to:

"Never regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow."

The game is not yet ended for us. We each can still win at what we choose to win at. (That's a Rogerism.)

LRH once defined "havingness" as quality of reach.

I like that "quality" factor, as the quality of your continued reach determines whether you will win or not.

RogerB

I like that quote! It comes at a good time for me



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[hbeer]

My First Own ESMB Thread

BLUE SPIRIT IS PROVED RIGHT AGAIN AND TAKES A BOW, S & L gets an "ack" for her assist, Heidrun becomes Source of her own ideas instead of riding on someone else's coat tails and Lakey, well Lakey, he loses a little readership but he doesn't care, he now has a protege out there who will always remember his thread fondly as the place where she first started. What could be better than a game where everyone wins and all due to the impetus of the clever minded Blue Spirit.
Lakey

Hi People,


thank you for encouraging me to start my own thread!

I let it percolate for a few days and then had an inspiration...

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=15568



Enjoy!



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[purple haze]

complication

The point is that they are BREAKING THEIR OWN LAWS. Instead of applying them.

That specific complication is too often overlooked by the critical public and press.



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Excellent post and I ditto that. Short and sweet, but couldn't have said it any better!

[Looks like my two year old grandson is in harmony with his nanna writing on her laptop, as the snow softly falls outside.]

Hbeer, if they actually allowed the truth to be seen or perceived, they'd all burst out of their solid cocoons and fly about freely as beautiful butterflies, which we enjoy here = freedom to communicate freely on any subject, only limited by our own good judgment and consideration. Right, Sweetness?

Everything the group of which we speak, long ago symbolized for me, cannot be found inside that dead giant cocoon carcass. The freed beings who evolved and went out the top or out the bottom, can now, as individuals, create their own beingness, unencumbered by the lies and labels of either madman or messiah.

I never agreed to be labeled a Scientologist, before, during, or after my involvement, as I always perceived it a small game and was uncomfortable being limited by a label or another's ego, no matter how brilliant.

I chose to co-create as a free spirit with individuals rather than becoming some stuck identity for the majority to relate to and control. Thus, auditing worked for me as a means of contribution and I excelled at it.

I have always been feisty, just ask Dart, so, controlling bodies as a basic premise, I found to be detrimental unless it was with the other's willingness and consent.

Thus, being dragged by my long blond hair down the stairs to the basement at AOLA by Joan Robertson, while I fought and hung onto the door jam for dear life, and then being cuffed there, until I acquiesced and came down to propitiation, just was not my cup of tea.

Shame on you, Scientology, as a group, that you would allow this and thousands of other stories to be created by your underbelly, your robotic minions who could never even hope to take responsibility for their actions, much less apologize.

So, it seems to me, that those who are free of the Church subjugation and stupidity, are the lucky ones. Those still involved are at best oblivious and at the worst, think 'it has nothing to do with me'.

WAKE UP, and as the minah bird said in Huxley's Island, "PAY ATTENTION"


Heading to the airport soon, to fly that big bird in the falling snow.

 

[lkwdblds]

Were you an Author in your last life?

Excellent post and I ditto that. Short and sweet, but couldn't have said it any better!

[Looks like my two year old grandson is in harmony with his nanna writing on her laptop, as the snow softly falls outside.]

Hbeer, if they actually allowed the truth to be seen or perceived, they'd all burst out of their solid cocoons and fly about freely as beautiful butterflies, which we enjoy here = freedom to communicate freely on any subject, only limited by our own good judgment and consideration. Right, Sweetness?

Funny how Hbeer always looks like Heber. I agree but to me "good judgement" is the key. There is no one but the speaker or author to decide what is good judgement and that takes some skill.

Everything the group of which we speak, long ago symbolized for me, cannot be found inside that dead giant cocoon carcass. The freed beings who evolved and went out the top or out the bottom, can now, as individuals, create their own beingness, unencumbered by the lies and labels of either madman or messiah.

Brilliant superlative prose, expresses the concept concisely but with a lot of color as well. Would you mind revealing what pen name you wrote under in a past incarnation? Was it Jane Austen or one of the Bronte's?

I never agreed to be labeled a Scientologist, before, during, or after my involvement, as I always perceived it a small game and was uncomfortable being limited by a label or another's ego, no matter how brilliant.

A class VIII Sea Org member not a Scientologist, novel but apparently the truth! You were smarter than most in seeing that you could absorb and apply truths out of Scientology without subscribing to the silly trappings connected with being in the Sea Org. My Brother once made a sage remark, "It's ridiculous we grown adults are going through this naval dress ritual just because Hubbard decided he wants to be Commodore of a Navy."!

I chose to co-create as a free spirit with individuals rather than becoming some stuck identity for the majority to relate to and control. Thus, auditing worked for me as a means of contribution and I excelled at it.

That became harder and harder to do as the years went by.

I have always been feisty, just ask Dart, so, controlling bodies as a basic premise, I found to be detrimental unless it was with the other's willingness and consent.

Thus, being dragged by my long blond hair down the stairs to the basement at AOLA by Joan Robertson, while I fought and hung onto the door jam for dear life, and then being cuffed there, until I acquiesced and came down to propitiation, just was not my cup of tea.

So you do have a story! I was begining to wonder.

Shame on you, Scientology, as a group, that you would allow this and thousands of other stories to be created by your underbelly, your robotic minions who could never even hope to take responsibility for their actions, much less apologize.

So, it seems to me, that those who are free of the Church subjugation and stupidity, are the lucky ones. Those still involved are at best oblivious and at the worst, think 'it has nothing to do with me'.

WAKE UP, and as the minah bird said in Huxley's Island, "PAY ATTENTION"


Heading to the airport soon, to fly that big bird in the falling snow.

Just a superlative post, a classic, right up there with Roger's!
Lakey

 

[CarmeloOrchards]

is it any so dissimilar from the Nazis and Hitler Youth?

It goes to the heart of the question, as to how far out of whack are beings on this planet? very far out of whack

 

[Blue Spirit]

Preaching To the Choir

The point is that they are BREAKING THEIR OWN LAWS. Instead of applying them.

That specific complication is too often overlooked by the critical public and press.
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I totally agree, and of course you are "preaching to the choir" on that subject.

 

[Blue Spirit]

ME TOO !

I like that quote! It comes at a good time for me

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ME TOO !

 

[SweetnessandLight]

Here comes the New Year!

Me three!!!

Wow, I think we near total agreement on this thread, gotta be a first in ESMB history, that we all know Corporate Scientology is breaking their own rules, and we wish they would get their own ethics in and REFORM THINGS!

Also agree with Purple that those sad souls locked in somebody's valence just need to should wake up and free themselves. (Glad you noticed my sig line, hope it's doing somebody some good out there.) The good news is, I think more and more are doing just that.

Many of us collectively are working on aquireing more freedom on a lot of levels (personal and group), and also about improving conditions and elevating tone on a global basis. I am an optimist. The main thing is, as Rog says, don't give up, persist and proceed!

Purple, so sorry to hear that you were also abused as so many have been, (what a brutal system! ) but celebrating that you not only survived it but went on and thrived! I think the cocoon-butterfly analogy is very apt and useful for people to get a mental picture of something outside of and beyond their view of reality. I hope it helps people. I have not copyrighted it, so disseminate at will! Let's all flourish and prosper. It's been said that "living well is the best revenge"!

Hug your Grandson once for me, I love kids!

Heidrun's new thread is a success already, go check it out everybody!
May it be the first of many!

 

[lkwdblds]

Its certainly got a lot of similarities!

is it any so dissimilar from the Nazis and Hitler Youth?

It goes to the heart of the question, as to how far out of whack are beings on his planet? very far out of whack

The main difference between the Nazi's and C of S as regards indoctrination and the trappings and procedures is the main prinicple distinguishing the group from other groups. The Nazi's used the racial charicteristics of one's body. This is about as far from a correct "why" as is possible. There is no truth in the premise whatsoever, zilch, nada, nichts. Thus their group was based on a preposterous foundation. With Scientology, people are told they are superior to non Scientologists because they hold superior knowledge. Of course many groups have based their belief of exclusivity and superiority on the claim of possesing superior knowledge before Scientology. Jehova's Witnesses are a good example. Besides the Nazi's, the largest group using racial characteristics to claim superiority was the Klu Klux Klan and similar Southern U.S. movements based on racial hatred.

The Nazi's and the Klan were more designed to use wars and killings to get rid of their enemies. Various sects of Christianity would strive to win over the minds rather than kill. Christians would kill for their group when faced with certain opposition, witness the Crusades and Holy Wars against Islam and also the Inquistions held in Spain and other Catholic areas to get rid of jew and also withches. All such movements, whatever they are based on seem to have a villain figure set up which is responsible for all the ills of the world. For the Nazi's it was the Jews, for the Klan it was Blacks and Jews as well who were not considered white no matter how white their sking was (go figure), for CHristianity it is the Devil, for psychiatry it is the "Psychs".

Most of the movements do good at their point of inception including of course Christianity, Scientology, and yes, even Nazism started out doing good reforms in Germany. As to the Klan, they are one of the groups who never seemed to do any good but they made up for that by the ploy of appearing to be committed Christians and Patriots.

Yes, the populations of Earth are easily led astray and into large and powerful aberrant groups. It can get pretty crazy out there. I believe, we have here on Earth a potential Eden, the makings of a great planet with Great civilizations but there is so much counter intention to this ever happening and there are elite out there who feel that they know best for us and that the people at large are nice but incompetent, foolish and are just animals with no spiritual side to them at all. These people are well connected and well funded and their plans to take over education and dumb it down and take over all discourse in our Universities plus take over our media and entertainment venues are on track to make Earth a cradle to grave "paradise" where the government provides for the populace from cradle to grave.

Well, time to get off the soap box and get back to work.
Lakey

 

[Blue Spirit]

WOW, WOW, WOW !!!

Excellent post and I ditto that. Short and sweet, but couldn't have said it any better!

[Looks like my two year old grandson is in harmony with his nanna writing on her laptop, as the snow softly falls outside.]

Hbeer, if they actually allowed the truth to be seen or perceived, they'd all burst out of their solid cocoons and fly about freely as beautiful butterflies, which we enjoy here = freedom to communicate freely on any subject, only limited by our own good judgment and consideration. Right, Sweetness?

Everything the group of which we speak, long ago symbolized for me, cannot be found inside that dead giant cocoon carcass. The freed beings who evolved and went out the top or out the bottom, can now, as individuals, create their own beingness, unencumbered by the lies and labels of either madman or messiah.

I never agreed to be labeled a Scientologist, before, during, or after my involvement, as I always perceived it a small game and was uncomfortable being limited by a label or another's ego, no matter how brilliant.

I chose to co-create as a free spirit with individuals rather than becoming some stuck identity for the majority to relate to and control. Thus, auditing worked for me as a means of contribution and I excelled at it.

I have always been feisty, just ask Dart, so, controlling bodies as a basic premise, I found to be detrimental unless it was with the other's willingness and consent.

Thus, being dragged by my long blond hair down the stairs to the basement at AOLA by Joan Robertson, while I fought and hung onto the door jam for dear life, and then being cuffed there, until I acquiesced and came down to propitiation, just was not my cup of tea.

Shame on you, Scientology, as a group, that you would allow this and thousands of other stories to be created by your underbelly, your robotic minions who could never even hope to take responsibility for their actions, much less apologize.

So, it seems to me, that those who are free of the Church subjugation and stupidity, are the lucky ones. Those still involved are at best oblivious and at the worst, think 'it has nothing to do with me'.

WAKE UP, and as the minah bird said in Huxley's Island, "PAY ATTENTION"


Heading to the airport soon, to fly that big bird in the falling snow.

WOW, WOW, WOW !!!
Those same thoughts have been welling up in me for a long while and I've posted some of this in briefer, not as clear wording.

Purple, you have written it so very well, and you are so DAMN right.

 

[SweetnessandLight]

O.K.!

Originally Posted by SweetnessandLight :
"I do wish you would stop calling her a "dumb blonde" Terril, when she is really a blonde angel! (Now redhead!) "

Terril wrote:
"Just teasing

We're friends."

You darling man, bless your heart, I know...I was teasing YOU!
(Besides, I gotta stick up for my blondie tribe, even when they are being stealth redheads!)

 

[Terril park]

LRH once defined "havingness" as quality of reach.

I like that "quality" factor, as the quality of your continued reach determines whether you will win or not.

RogerB

Thats new to me, and I love that idea.

I believe I've, and manyb here, instinctly used it anyhow.

One can reach[ communicate] in all sorts of ways including
those, lets say nonsensical, as a broad term here.

Ties in comm, reach, quality with comments on art, whether by LRH or others.

Subtext:-

Life, the world, can be beautiful.