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purple haze

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Tory Christman [Facebook public message]

Sand Can---I'm so sorry, if it's true you were "uninvited". You know I'm big on not excluding people, and this wasn't my party. (I do also recognize that people often have groups they're familiar with, thus --not intentionally to leave people out---but by the nature of that, people, self included, do get left out, sometimes). I started having *my* parties----(not this one) for that reason.

Also, I don't know you---so I was never told you (whomever you are) are a "plant". Trust me, I've lived with *that* label since I left Scientology. OSA has spread it for 10 years...and yes, I know it sucks. All I can say is move on, find friends, and connect with people who you love and they love you.♥ Call me and we'll talk: #


Sand Can [Facebook response]

Hi Tory,

Thanks for your splendid reply. :):happydance:

I was told by Gary Hart [CC Treasury] that you were the switchboard operator at CC at the time I was Yvonne's Celebrity Auditor.

Since I was always in session, and never even knew there was a mess hall nor was I ever invited to dinner with the staff [as Dean Stokes was, according to Dean a couple of days ago by phone] I guess we never met.

I'd love to see some pics of you from that era, posted here on your Facebook if you have any. I'll try to find one of me and post it here on my Photos page.:p

It's very possible we never met.

But we may have seen each other in passing. My boyfriend at the time who lived with me in my house at the top of Echo Park, was Frank Dunn, the blond 6'6" hunk. He had a band which played at Celebrity Center, called Gemini, named in honor of both our birth signs, along with 6'6" Frank Blumer, who's still in CoS I'm told by his ex wife ex Scientologist and still my friend, Lee Blumer [who was Tech Sec in the early days at CC] and Jim Fleming.

We all blew in 1973 after Yvonne had had me comm ev'd and Heber physically blocked and refused Frank access to Yvonne. Frank Dunn, who had originally found her the wood building on 8th street, was heart broken and I felt extreme hatred for Heber, who had gotten Frank into Scn while they were on the set of PAINT YOUR WAGON, and had been our dearest friend at the start of CCLA.


We all moved to Sausalito where I rented a house boat for us, and the rest is another story.:D

Spanky had invited me to dinner with Ellen Jones, etc, when I first got to California about 5 years ago.

I was running my retro Horn of Plenty Cafe in Torrance at the time [very far from doing any kind of legitimate auditing for money].:clap:

In fact, I call it LIFE SESSIONS: working things out in real life by helping another face one's problems and completing cycles of action. It's completely FREE OF CHARGE. It's PRICELESS, and, putting any price tag on it, devaluates its worth.

LIFE SESSIONS is what I've done for 28 years while HOME IN HAWAII, developing my own TOOL BOOKS comprised of concepts from the I Ching, Carlos Castaneda books, Jung, etc, etc = whatever works.

The person themselves does the work. "No need to believe in a hammer for it to work for you." quoting myself. "You just need to know the proper way to handle it as to make it useful and work for you. No BELIEVING IN IT required here. RESULTS are the proof. etc"


In Scn's eyes, I would be labeled a MASTER SQUIRREL, and, proud of it, mind you.:omg:

After I sold the cafe and my children had moved on into their own independent lives, leaving me to flounder in my empty nest, Spanky then invited me to a party at her house where about 30 exscns showed up.

I brought all my photo albums from the old days and shared them with everyone, while we all waited for my ex husband, Ira Chaleff, to show up. [Aida Thomas knows of these photo albums as I brought them to a party at her house when I first met her about 3 years ago].

I guess you now know more about me, Tory, than you ever wanted to know, so I'll end it for now.:melodramatic:

I guess it's best that I set it all down in written form, so there can be no misunderstandings, as we all get to know each other.

I do respect you tremendously and all you've done for the independent field, whatever the persuasion. I'm sure it runs the gauntlet, from those totally against even the mention of any of the Scn jargon to those like Pierre, completely practicing the tech in full gear and regalia, in full view of all to see.

My hope is that we can all co-exist and help each other out, regarding the fight with the usurped Church of Scientology.

Personally, I'm not interested in reforming the Church in any way, as I mentioned in my earlier rant.

HAPPY DAY, OH HAPPY DAY, WHEN.........

aloha and NAMASTE,:blowkiss:

Candy Swanson
the one who refuses to be limited by labels
Class VIII XDN original OT VII ex Sea Org
MSW Autism Specialist
[and most importantly]
mom & tutu [Hawaiian nana]
42 minutes ago

:omg::dancer:
 
Snapshots will do, but if you want to do it right schedule a session with my daughter, Jessica Swatts:

http://www.littleblackportraits.com/p/client-reviews.html

Her daddy taught her well. Now the student has surpassed the teacher.
:coolwink::coolwink::coolwink:

Just keep those cards and letter with ideas coming.

My vision is open to modification.

So far:

Good Twin will show her good twins.

Purple Haze is in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgzpJ4KrNdM&playnext=1&list=PLFD1EC50B08D93423&index=15

My thought is that wherever you are on the globe (pun), take a friend to your local org or mission to photograph. Flash your tits (and more if you want) in front of a large Scientology sign, in the reception lobby where there are books or in an auditing room with an e meter. the more scientologists in the picture the better. The more gals flashing the better.

Take lots of pictures. When our kids did modeling, we found that photographers easily take fifty pictures and get one they like, but in a short shoot (back in the days of film) they'd go through dozens of rolls of 36 exposure film to get one picture for an ad.

my wife and I do photo calendars of our family every year. We use i photo on the Mac. It is really fun and easy. Before calendars, we used too do yearbooks for her school.

I think we get photos from across the world. gals of all ages and sizes. Make a whimsical FUN calendar that features EX Scientologists with their Scio experience as part of the caption.

for instance "Candy Swanson, former Sea Org, Class Vlll, OT, Original Auditor, C/S Celebrity Centre"

the idea is "in your face"

The ladies in the calendar in the UK some years back did it to raise funds for cancer research because one of their husbands was dying of cancer and died.

We'll be doing it for a legal defense fund for Emma and rescue activities of damaged souls leaving the sea Org and other Scientology missions and orgs.

The idea is two fold. get publicity for the EX movement and fund help for those exes who need it.

It would be nice to get news coverage of this, Jay Leno, Conan, Today, etc. and and a movie deal.

Please feel free to contribute to the vision, improve it, etc. We should have fun. Target would be for the 2012 calendar sales. Taking pictures with red Christmasy hats and articles in front of Big Blue on a warm California winter day would be entirely appropriate. Doing photos with a surf board and stripping bathing suits for summer. Thanksgiving, easter, and Halloween themes would be good too.

anyone feel free to PM me
 

lkwdblds

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Kudos to Candy

Tory Christman [Facebook public message]

Sand Can---I'm so sorry, if it's true you were "uninvited". You know I'm big on not excluding people, and this wasn't my party. (I do also recognize that people often have groups they're familiar with, thus --not intentionally to leave people out---but by the nature of that, people, self included, do get left out, sometimes). I started having *my* parties----(not this one) for that reason.

Also, I don't know you---so I was never told you (whomever you are) are a "plant". Trust me, I've lived with *that* label since I left Scientology. OSA has spread it for 10 years...and yes, I know it sucks. All I can say is move on, find friends, and connect with people who you love and they love you.♥ Call me and we'll talk: #


Sand Can [Facebook response]

Hi Tory,

Thanks for your splendid reply. :):happydance:

I was told by Gary Hart [CC Treasury] that you were the switchboard operator at CC at the time I was Yvonne's Celebrity Auditor.

Since I was always in session, and never even knew there was a mess hall nor was I ever invited to dinner with the staff [as Dean Stokes was, according to Dean a couple of days ago by phone] I guess we never met.

I'd love to see some pics of you from that era, posted here on your Facebook if you have any. I'll try to find one of me and post it here on my Photos page.:p

It's very possible we never met.

But we may have seen each other in passing. My boyfriend at the time who lived with me in my house at the top of Echo Park, was Frank Dunn, the blond 6'6" hunk. He had a band which played at Celebrity Center, called Gemini, named in honor of both our birth signs, along with 6'6" Frank Blumer, who's still in CoS I'm told by his ex wife ex Scientologist and still my friend, Lee Blumer [who was Tech Sec in the early days at CC] and Jim Fleming.

We all blew in 1973 after Yvonne had had me comm ev'd and Heber physically blocked and refused Frank access to Yvonne. Frank Dunn, who had originally found her the wood building on 8th street, was heart broken and I felt extreme hatred for Heber, who had gotten Frank into Scn while they were on the set of PAINT YOUR WAGON, and had been our dearest friend at the start of CCLA.


We all moved to Sausalito where I rented a house boat for us, and the rest is another story.:D

Spanky had invited me to dinner with Ellen Jones, etc, when I first got to California about 5 years ago.

I was running my retro Horn of Plenty Cafe in Torrance at the time [very far from doing any kind of legitimate auditing for money].:clap:

In fact, I call it LIFE SESSIONS: working things out in real life by helping another face one's problems and completing cycles of action. It's completely FREE OF CHARGE. It's PRICELESS, and, putting any price tag on it, devaluates its worth.

LIFE SESSIONS is what I've done for 28 years while HOME IN HAWAII, developing my own TOOL BOOKS comprised of concepts from the I Ching, Carlos Castaneda books, Jung, etc, etc = whatever works.

The person themselves does the work. "No need to believe in a hammer for it to work for you." quoting myself. "You just need to know the proper way to handle it as to make it useful and work for you. No BELIEVING IN IT required here. RESULTS are the proof. etc"


In Scn's eyes, I would be labeled a MASTER SQUIRREL, and, proud of it, mind you.:omg:

After I sold the cafe and my children had moved on into their own independent lives, leaving me to flounder in my empty nest, Spanky then invited me to a party at her house where about 30 exscns showed up.

I brought all my photo albums from the old days and shared them with everyone, while we all waited for my ex husband, Ira Chaleff, to show up. [Aida Thomas knows of these photo albums as I brought them to a party at her house when I first met her about 3 years ago].

I guess you now know more about me, Tory, than you ever wanted to know, so I'll end it for now.:melodramatic:

I guess it's best that I set it all down in written form, so there can be no misunderstandings, as we all get to know each other.

I do respect you tremendously and all you've done for the independent field, whatever the persuasion. I'm sure it runs the gauntlet, from those totally against even the mention of any of the Scn jargon to those like Pierre, completely practicing the tech in full gear and regalia, in full view of all to see.

My hope is that we can all co-exist and help each other out, regarding the fight with the usurped Church of Scientology.

Personally, I'm not interested in reforming the Church in any way, as I mentioned in my earlier rant.

HAPPY DAY, OH HAPPY DAY, WHEN.........

aloha and NAMASTE,:blowkiss:

Candy Swanson
the one who refuses to be limited by labels
Class VIII XDN original OT VII ex Sea Org
MSW Autism Specialist
[and most importantly]
mom & tutu [Hawaiian nana]
42 minutes ago

:omg::dancer:


Thnaks Candy for writing a lot of the background stuff about yourself. That harkens back to last December and January when I was engaged in researching the early days of CCLA and was very interested in compiling the background stories of the early movers and shakers at CCLA. In fact, it was on Dec 21, 2009 that you first emailed me to introduce yourself and then you filled in the story for me of how CCLA got started a day or two later.

SPANKY HAD A CHANCE TO CLEAN UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN YOU AND HER BUT REFUSED TO TAKE IT

To summarize what happened, Hector Carmona had invited me to the party a few days earlier. I accepted his invitation. Hector told me that the party was designed to be for people who were early staff members at CCLA. He did not tell me to invite anyone else but neither did he tell me that I could not invite anyone else.

I took it upon myself to invite Candy. I figured that if it was for early CCLA staff, then everyone would be delighted that the first CCLA staff member, Candy, would be in attendance. Perhaps this was naive of me to assume that I could invite someone without seeking approval from the hostess, Spanky. I can certainly see how this could be construed to be offensive to those who were putting on the party. I will accept responsibility for making this faux pas or blunder of etiquette.

Hector called back and I mentioned that I had invited Candy. He was nervous and said that I did not have the authority to invite anyone. It was agreed that he would check with Spanky to see if it was okay and then call me back. He call back several hours later to state that Candy was approved but that neither I nor Candy was to invite anyone else. Candy already had told me that she had invited Johnny to be her escort.

All of a sudden, Hector called me back saying that the decision made about Candy had been reversed and that she was not allowed to come. It was stated by Hector that the reason was that Candy still believed in LRH tech and was selling sessions using that tech. I protested that I did not believe that to be true but Hector insisted that I call back and uninvite Candy and also Johnny. I told Hector that if Candy was not allowed, I would not come. He just said, "Fine!" I made two calls and uninvited Candy and Johnny.

Before fully deciding not to attend the party, I called Spanky's number and got her voicemail. I explained that I was the Director of Disbursements in Treasury in CCLA in the early 70's and that I wanted to talk to her about why Candy was not allowed to come. I made that call on the morning of the day of the party. My call was not even given the courtesy of a return call. I decided that the people putting on that party were not the type of people whom I wished to associate with and decided not to go.

Candy is just who she says she is in her post above and she would be an assett to have at any party in the world. Ditto for Johnny. Had the three of us attended as was planned up unitl the last day, that party would have been much, much better and memorable for all - that I am sure of!!!

Gary Hart aka Lakey, Dir of Disbursements CCLA, Dec 1971 to Dec 1973.
 
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purple haze

Patron with Honors
Gary Hart supports me!

On my Facebook Wall, under Candy Swanson

last Sunday, Nov 14 around 1 pm:

Gary Hart:

Hi Candy! I just saw your long articel on my ESMB thread. "The Old Days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973", concerning the early CCLA staff member party and I want you to know that I am 100% behind you in your endeavor to bring sanity to bear for your being told that you could not attend. Seeing as I was the one to originally invite you and then later call you to tell you you could not come.
I was told it was okay for me to come but not okay for you to come. To show my support for you, I told them I would not attend. And even though you begged me and John Raffanelo. "The Magic Thetan",, who, you had invited as your date, I refused to attend any function where the host or hostess would ban you. .... You are my trusted and good friend.

Thank you Lackey!:dance2: I admire your sense of justice and your stance against injustice of any ilk.

Purple
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Candy - you made a big typo.....

On my Facebook Wall, under Candy Swanson

last Sunday, Nov 14 around 1 pm:

Gary Hart:

Hi Candy! I just saw your long articel on my ESMB thread. "The Old Days - Aboard the Apollo - 1973", concerning the early CCLA staff member party and I want you to know that I am 100% behind you in your endeavor to bring sanity to bear for your being told that you could not attend. Seeing as I was the one to originally invite you and then later call you to tell you you could not come.
I was told it was okay for me to come but not okay for you to come. To show my support for you, I told them I would not attend. And even though you begged me and John Raffanelo. "The Magic Thetan",, who, you had invited as your date, I refused to attend any function where the host or hostess would ban you. .... You are my trusted and good friend.

Thank you Lakey!:dance2: I admire your sense of justice and your stance against injustice of any ilk.

Purple

Candy, er uh I don't know how to say this but in closing you post, you put, Thank you Lackey instead of Lakey. I was able to correct that and just did so. People might get the wrong idea, without the correction!

BTW: Candy mentioned the Gospel song, "Oh Happy Day" in her long post in this current series and her is a youtube link to a jazzed up version of that song in a Whoopi Golder movie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M

Lakey
 
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Auditor's Toad

Clear as Mud
Candy, er uh I don't know how to say this but in closing you post, you put, Thank you Lackey instead of Lakey. I was able to correct that and just did so. People might get the wrong idea, without the correction!

BTW: Candy mentioned the Gospel song, "Oh Happy Day" in her long post in this current series and her is a youtube link to a jazzed up version of that song in a Whoopi Golder movie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M

Lakey

Too bad about your party. I sort of know how weird that is . I got dis-invited to a wedding once - LOL !

Anyway, I'd like to be in touch with Hector. I knew and liked him in the old days. Always wondered where he went. PM me please if he posts here.
 

Terril park

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I’m catching up . . .

Actually T, I’d say we are actually not in disagreement. I’d say you are expressing one aspect and “method” of being “exterior,” which is perfectly fine and OK.

What Ted and I are really referring to and commenting on is the detached, disconnected, unable to connect and properly influence anything, stuck nature of Hubbard. Indeed, if one looks at his history, it is a history of very shallow “contact” and of not ever completing anything and then the fraudulent misrepresentation of qualifications and/or quality of product! Note he dropped out of college but claimed to have been on the “first course of nuclear physics in the US at George Washington Uni” . . . and then the dog goes and buys a phony PhD so as to call himself "Dr. Hubbard."

I could cite many more examples of his detachment from truth and inability to truly connect with and influence mainstream society. But the above are bottom-line, rock solid examples.



T, I would invite you to look at just how connected and present you are around the planet . . . . while you state you have a “confined” or focused presence distinct from the body located about three feet from it, I would ask you to experience how connected you are to all the folks your are in comm with hundreds of miles away from your physical body location. And the next question is: do you feel them? the ones, you are most in touch with . . . . do you experience them when you think of them or connect to them spiritually?

I raise these questions because I suspect you are far, far more “exterior” and larger than the “location” you mention, three feet from the body.

I would put it to you that that “location” three feet from the body is simply a focused presence you have assumed to perceive from while you are also present over and permeating a far larger domain of existence and while also connected and influencing a vast number of connections over a much larger spatial domain.




Yes, and I’d say you are quite right. It is a step in the right direction. It is a method and level of spiritual awareness separate from the body, and way up from thinking you’re only a body.

My view is that it can be further upgraded.

But the distinction here between your scenario and the one we are referring to as Hubbard’s, is that you can get in and connect. Hubbard got stuck out! Hubbard got detached from society and couldn't then get back in or connect with the real deal.



Yup! There is more to it than being “three feet back of your head.” I remember that stupid command from the 1950’s . . . why 3 feet? How stupid! Why not a really beneficial command like: Be bigger than your body, or, be as big as you can be; or some such. Or even simply: be exterior to your body! Why limit it to 3 silly little feet!?! And back of your head! :duh:

Rog

I think the three feet back is a common, or relatively common experience
of exteriorisation. I started doing this without it being under my control.
I have no idea why, I then spent the years between around 6 and 14
trying to gain control of the phenomena. I finally obtained complete control one afternoon, and indeed found LRH's comment of being able to handle things better that way to be true. All this way before I heard of scn.

I didn't bother about doing it after that point. It did happen again after discovering scn. In particular during FPRD and immediately after that in my horrendous CCRD where I was undeclared clear, was sent to attest to a state, and was possibly the last person COS accepted as natural clear in 1991.

When I visited Alan about two and a half years ago, he asked me and my friend how big we were. I responded with the space that included the 5 people there, my friend said as big as the room. So guess the size one is
is a variable consideration. :)

Now I run a forum for FZers that is world wide. Along the way I had a cognition/consideration that the whole of COS including OSA were part of my div 6 field, and so it has worked out.

Then I started to wear a sort of chaplain hat to try and handle FZ quarrels and upsets. This is a very difficult hat to wear, and was a cause of quite some personal gain for me. Simultaneously I was doing Ot 2 and 3.

Whatever the flaws of Hubbard and his actions, and results of his writings and his organisations he was a genius. He stood on others shoulders and others stand on his. This is as it should be.
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
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Tory on Facebook: "We were literally trying to think of who else (here in LA or near) we knew who was there at that original CC. If you were, please do let me know. :)"

Candy Swanson's reply to Tory on Facebook:

"Candy Swanson and Gary Hart were from the early days. not at party…

Too bad for the snafu, Tory. Water under the BRIDGE to insanity...:happydance:

Actually, personally having known Heber very well from the beginning = he is a big boy and I know he can handle it. Maybe even cause the up rising from within and burst through the insanity and set them all free...Castrating Davey boy in the process.:coolwink:

Maybe that would make Davey's CoS impotent. LOL No wait. It's already impotent and long overdue for the theta overhaul; no new buildings can put a fake face on what's not really there in the first place; a foundation of lies and bull crap.

I'm sorry to say, but all those still involved in helping create the insanity, I have no pity for. Davey relies on their subservience to boost him up. :angry: Otherwise, without their energy, he'd be as he really is, a wooden souled, unconscious fool, trying to plug the Ship of Fools which is fastly sinking.

better luck next party.

see if you can get us to attend.:melodramatic:

bet not

Sand

PS looking at the photos Tory posted on Facebook, I saw ‘the Queen’ and realized there was no room at all at that party for the free-spirit-energy Gary and Johnny Raf and I would have brought.:iamqueen:

In fact, I didn’t see any of the original staff I recognized except Hector. :confused2:

I’m afraid this brightly shining star would have been a dud, snuffed and stuffed out like a candle in the night.

No thanks! :omg:

Very happy now I avoided another realm of the insanity, called anti-scn. :blonde:

I personally do not enjoy either side of that scn fence, preferring to fly high, soaring with the currents as they rise above it all. :ship:
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
bb

I think the three feet back is a common, or relatively common experience
of exteriorisation. I started doing this without it being under my control.
I have no idea why, I then spent the years between around 6 and 14
trying to gain control of the phenomena. I finally obtained complete control one afternoon, and indeed found LRH's comment of being able to handle things better that way to be true. All this way before I heard of scn.

I didn't bother about doing it after that point. It did happen again after discovering scn. In particular during FPRD and immediately after that in my horrendous CCRD where I was undeclared clear, was sent to attest to a state, and was possibly the last person COS accepted as natural clear in 1991.

When I visited Alan about two and a half years ago, he asked me and my friend how big we were. I responded with the space that included the 5 people there, my friend said as big as the room. So guess the size one is
is a variable consideration. :)

Now I run a forum for FZers that is world wide. Along the way I had a cognition/consideration that the whole of COS including OSA were part of my div 6 field, and so it has worked out.

Then I started to wear a sort of chaplain hat to try and handle FZ quarrels and upsets. This is a very difficult hat to wear, and was a cause of quite some personal gain for me. Simultaneously I was doing Ot 2 and 3.

Whatever the flaws of Hubbard and his actions, and results of his writings and his organisations he was a genius. He stood on others shoulders and others stand on his. This is as it should be.

Terril, what an outstanding post from you. :thumbsup:
Truly in the ZONE! aloha sweet bb, Lots and lots of love from candy.:hug:
 

Zinjifar

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Probably best not to judge all Scientology 'opponents' by the silliness of some self-proclaimed 'antis' :)

Zinj
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
belated response

Hi to Mick! Nice to see you here. Big Hugs to you big guy! :D

Purple Honey, no-one who knows anything here thinks that you are working covertly or overtly for COS. :eyeroll: Don't worry about that. It's laughable!

It was rotten for you to be uninvited, but Scientologists in general are not the most socially adept, adroit or gracious people that I have ever met...it was a fear-based choice on someone's part.

I don't think it's a vast whispering campaign against you at all, but if it is, it's just black pr to try and divide and conquer, also to try and harm those who are near and dear to you. Don't give it any power. Scientologists use the threat of social exclusion as a means of controlling others. Let's just not play that game...

I know it hurts to be excluded, and I'm sorry that the three of you didn't go to the party...you would have collectively been the life of the party! :D

Just keep on being yourself, live a wonderful life...the truth of who and what you are shines forth for people to see and they will...and this unpleasantness will all dissolve into the nothingness that it is...:thumbsup:

Your friends know you for who you are, and we have TREMENDOUS gravitas and street cred! :yes: Relax, you're on the side of the Angels here! :thumbsup:

Aloha nui loa! :happydance:

:happydance: BLESS YOU, such a lovely post and blew most of my charge. :omg:

:goodposting:

The reason I keep it going is to uncover the real why laying deep at the bottom of it, in order to get all the way through it and leave it behind in the dust!:coolwink: comprende?

And I'm having fun with these emotion thingies and am enjoying the hell out of what's flowing through me, and the wonderful responses I'm getting on Facebook!:cheerleader:


:party:
 

purple haze

Patron with Honors
bb

Well I'm certainly not disconnecting from you!

What nutcase started a rumour that you were a COS plant?

Still finding that out.:grouch:
I don't think it's the Queen. :clap:
I think it's the 'nice' person who wouldn't harm a fly = obviously a third party situation over the past 4 years...:duh:
it has gotten Ellen Jones to stop being friendly to me,
:confused2:hummmmm who could it be? watch out!
the truth always outs in the end. I have AN AWFULLY LOT OF PATIENCE:whistling:
 

Terril park

Sponsor
Still finding that out.:grouch:
I don't think it's the Queen. :clap:
I think it's the 'nice' person who wouldn't harm a fly = obviously a third party situation over the past 4 years...:duh:
it has gotten Ellen Jones to stop being friendly to me,
:confused2:hummmmm who could it be? watch out!
the truth always outs in the end. I have AN AWFULLY LOT OF PATIENCE:whistling:

Ellen your C/S!

Please send privately all info you have about you being
referred to as an OSA spy.

At what point did Ellen become unfriendly to you?

Doubt that I'm the Sherlock Holmes of your dreams, but
niether am I without resources.
 
Then I started to wear a sort of chaplain hat to try and handle FZ quarrels and upsets. This is a very difficult hat to wear, and was a cause of quite some personal gain for me. Simultaneously I was doing Ot 2 and 3.

That's not a "hat", BB. It's a tshirt.


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