Lovinglife625
Patron with Honors
Hi Folks
This is my first posting on this site. I mostly post on XSO (as "LovingLife625") and I do post a bit on ars (as "SME").
I want to refer you to a document I just put on this site which you can find at:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=468
I was going to be making this post tomorrow but as someone else just released the news on ars, I wanted this information to be available on here as well.
The document referred to above is a very slight update to the one put on ars a few hours ago.
Basically it lists quite a number of questions being asked of both current and ex staff and scientologists as part of an investigation into illegal and unethical activities within organized scientology.
It seeks information and especially wants any information concerning David Miscavige and three of their top attorneys.
One thing I like about the questionnaire is that it is very honest up front as to what it plans to do with the information collected. You can see this on page three as it gives five examples of how the information will be used with their intention "to force Scientology to stop abusing its members, former members, and critics through ethical use of justice systems throughout the world".
The group collecting the information is Factnet and I can assure you that Factnet has no connections whatsoever to the church and is not an OSA Op. (To say the least lol)
Why am I telling you this?
I'm not asking anyone to do anything about this. I just think it is right that you all know this is really going on.
I have been a member of the XSO group for some months now and have very much enjoyed being a member there. But, both in posts there and in many private chats and emails I have noticed that some people want to do something about the lies and abuses that do exist in current organized scientology but have no idea how they can do anything about it.
I suggest that this may be helpful to some of you in taking some action. I cannot guarantee anything about whether the information you supply will be used or not. I can guarantee that some people involved with this want to stop the abuses and do intend to fight them in all the ways mentioned on page three of the document.
It is my belief that abuses truly cannot last forever and that the church is truly going to have to confront some major criminal and civil actions in the future that will go beyond anything they have confronted before. And I truly believe this also applies to both press and books being written now.
And, if you do participate, please remember that only the truth is being sought. This is not a "witch hunt".
OSA truly has no real clue just how much is going on now to fight injustices, abuses and illegal activities of which they have been a part. I believe they think their lies have "won the day" but they could not be more wrong.
Heck, I have not even been trying to be much of a part of this other than to correct some lies said in courts and suddenly I have so many people including various types of writers contacting me to help them understand things that they have been lied to about by OSA.
I don't know where this is all going to end up for sure, nor do I necessarily recommend this to any of you. But I think that you deserve to know this. I truly do believe that based on many years of involvement with "external affairs" matters for the church that what is ahead of them is far worse than what they have seen before. And I believe this has to do with the fact that the abuses have been far worse than ever before.
And to any OSA spy(s) that might be reading posts in this forum, I ask you to follow your heart and do what is right. Yes, this questionnaire does warn you on pages two and three that you have personal legal liability with respect to crimes carried out by the church and that "following policy", "following orders" and the like will not be defenses for you. BUT, I think that you should end your spying and do what is right and help here because it is simply the right thing to do.
As for me, whatever information I may supply or may have supplied, has not nor will it ever say anything about another ex scientologist. Nor will I help locate another person or ever say what I have been told privately by another.
Anyway, I've said my piece and completely respect whatever decisions anyone makes about this.
Oh, and BTW, hi everyone, it's nice to be here lol
Larry
This is my first posting on this site. I mostly post on XSO (as "LovingLife625") and I do post a bit on ars (as "SME").
I want to refer you to a document I just put on this site which you can find at:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=468
I was going to be making this post tomorrow but as someone else just released the news on ars, I wanted this information to be available on here as well.
The document referred to above is a very slight update to the one put on ars a few hours ago.
Basically it lists quite a number of questions being asked of both current and ex staff and scientologists as part of an investigation into illegal and unethical activities within organized scientology.
It seeks information and especially wants any information concerning David Miscavige and three of their top attorneys.
One thing I like about the questionnaire is that it is very honest up front as to what it plans to do with the information collected. You can see this on page three as it gives five examples of how the information will be used with their intention "to force Scientology to stop abusing its members, former members, and critics through ethical use of justice systems throughout the world".
The group collecting the information is Factnet and I can assure you that Factnet has no connections whatsoever to the church and is not an OSA Op. (To say the least lol)
Why am I telling you this?
I'm not asking anyone to do anything about this. I just think it is right that you all know this is really going on.
I have been a member of the XSO group for some months now and have very much enjoyed being a member there. But, both in posts there and in many private chats and emails I have noticed that some people want to do something about the lies and abuses that do exist in current organized scientology but have no idea how they can do anything about it.
I suggest that this may be helpful to some of you in taking some action. I cannot guarantee anything about whether the information you supply will be used or not. I can guarantee that some people involved with this want to stop the abuses and do intend to fight them in all the ways mentioned on page three of the document.
It is my belief that abuses truly cannot last forever and that the church is truly going to have to confront some major criminal and civil actions in the future that will go beyond anything they have confronted before. And I truly believe this also applies to both press and books being written now.
And, if you do participate, please remember that only the truth is being sought. This is not a "witch hunt".
OSA truly has no real clue just how much is going on now to fight injustices, abuses and illegal activities of which they have been a part. I believe they think their lies have "won the day" but they could not be more wrong.
Heck, I have not even been trying to be much of a part of this other than to correct some lies said in courts and suddenly I have so many people including various types of writers contacting me to help them understand things that they have been lied to about by OSA.
I don't know where this is all going to end up for sure, nor do I necessarily recommend this to any of you. But I think that you deserve to know this. I truly do believe that based on many years of involvement with "external affairs" matters for the church that what is ahead of them is far worse than what they have seen before. And I believe this has to do with the fact that the abuses have been far worse than ever before.
And to any OSA spy(s) that might be reading posts in this forum, I ask you to follow your heart and do what is right. Yes, this questionnaire does warn you on pages two and three that you have personal legal liability with respect to crimes carried out by the church and that "following policy", "following orders" and the like will not be defenses for you. BUT, I think that you should end your spying and do what is right and help here because it is simply the right thing to do.
As for me, whatever information I may supply or may have supplied, has not nor will it ever say anything about another ex scientologist. Nor will I help locate another person or ever say what I have been told privately by another.
Anyway, I've said my piece and completely respect whatever decisions anyone makes about this.
Oh, and BTW, hi everyone, it's nice to be here lol
Larry