CarmeloOrchards
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This is the most interesting thread. Thanks to all of you for all of the interesting and useful info you've posted here. I love it!!
This is a cool thread. One never knows what to expect.
The Little Thread Which Grew - the Apollo '73 to Everything But
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This is a cool thread. One never knows what to expect.
CarmeloOrchards
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the last time I looked, the Japanese weren't Aryan. Is there any more info?
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
I think the fact that Studebaker started out making Conestoga Wagons and transitioned successfully to electric and gas powered vehicles is surely a sign of a well foundationed company...
The H & C Studebaker blacksmith shop opened in 1852 at the corner of Michigan and Jefferson streets in what is now the heart of downtown South Bend, Indian. Henry & Clement Studebaker's blacksmith shop would turn into Studebaker Manufacturing Company in 1868, and would eventually become the largest wagon manufacturer in the world. Studebaker was the only manufacturer to successfully switch from horse drawn to gasoline powered vehicles.
Studebaker, was a United States wagon and automobile manufacturer based in South Bend, Indiana. Originally the company was a producer of wagons in 1852 and was first incorporated in 1868[1] under the name of the Studebaker Brothers Manufacturing Company. While Studebaker entered the automotive business in 1902 with electric vehicles and 1904 with gasoline vehicles, it partnered with other builders of gasoline powered vehicles until 1911. In 1913, Studebaker introduced the first gasoline powered automobiles under its own “Studebaker” brand name. Acquired in 1954 by Packard Motors Company of Detroit, Michigan, Studebaker became a division of the Studebaker Packard Corporation from 1954 to 1962. In 1962 it reverted to its previous name, the Studebaker Corporation. While the company left the automobile business in 1966, After the company closed the automobile manufacturing operation in 1966 it's vast car and wagon collection was given to the city of South Bend IN.
Packard Motor Car Corporation
Today Packard Motor Car Corporation is once again a separate company. They are located in Goodyear AZ. They are in the stages of designing a new line of high end luxury sedans.
I like the looks of the Avanti. I first saw it back when it was first introduced in Sept. 1962. And, yes, when you opened the hood everything was crammed in.
from wikipedia:
Altman and Newman
After Studebaker had ceased production at South Bend, the "Avanti" model name, tooling and plant space were bought by local Studebaker dealers, Nate Altman and Leo Newman, who incorporated as Avanti Motor Corporation and hand-built small numbers of cars.[1]
257 They introduced a slightly modified version of the car in 1965 under the brand name "Avanti II".[1]278 which initially had a 327 in³ (5.4 L) Chevrolet Corvette engine. This evolved to the 350, the 400 and, finally the 305. All Avanti IIs and their successors were built on left-over Studebaker chassis until 1987.[citation needed][edit]Stephen H. Blake
On October 1, 1982, real-estate developer Stephen H. Blake bought the rights to the Avanti II.[citation needed] He made modifications to the car, which had remained unchanged since the production of the Avanti II model began in the mid-1960s. Rectangular headlights and modern plastic body-colored bumpers were introduced. He also dropped the "II" in the car's name. All subsequent cars would be simply called the "Avanti".[citation needed] Blake's company declared bankruptcy in 1986.[citation needed]
[edit]Michael Eugene Kelly
The insolvent company was purchased by Michael Kelly, who relocated production to Youngstown, Ohio[2]. His 1987-89 models were based on GM's G-platform that underpinned the Chevrolet Monte Carlo.
The company claimed that a second-generation automobile was styled by Tom Kellogg, the youngest member of the original Avanti design team, in the late 1990s.[3] This car was based on GM's "F" platform Camaro/Firebird. Tom Kellogg was fatally injured in a car accident in California on 14 August 2003.[4]
The Avanti Motors website records that, from 2004, Ford chassis and engines were used.[3] In October 2005 an internet report was published that "Avanti Motors" had "recently announced a new relationship with Ford Motor Company and was planning a big comeback".[5] The new Avantis, very similar in appearance to the Firebird-based cars designed by Kellogg, were to be based on the current-generation Ford Mustang and were available as both coupés and convertibles. A brief report in October 2006 said the company had established a new factory at Cancun, Mexico and planned to produce 400 vehicles per year.[6] A brief chronology of relevant events from 1961-2005 has been published[2] but all production of new vehicles has apparently ended. As of 2007 they planned to produce 150 cars per year.[citation needed] The "Avanti Motors" website still exists but appears not to have been updated since 2006.
Michael Eugene Kelly, owner of Avanti Motors Corporation, was arrested by the FBI on Dec 22, 2006 in Florida. Kelly is suspected of running a $400 million Ponzi scheme from 1992–2004 and is in jail without bail facing mail fraud charges.[
dianaclass8
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Hi Carmelo:
Are you coming to the 4th of July party? Our mutual friends the OT 7s who are still on lines at Flag already confirmed
they told me that they can't wait to come and talk to us all.Aida
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
I'll be there.Hi Carmelo:
Are you coming to the 4th of July party? Our mutual friends the OT 7s who are still on lines at Flag already confirmed
Aida
Today is the first day I've had a chance to breathe in a month.
We are working hard and playing hard.
Our youngest has finished finals, and is graduating on Sunday.
She started work at her new job in the City today. She's in charge of bizdev. She hit the ground running. It's a microfinance outfit called Kiva. It's low pay compared to what she's used to, but the people are all smart and go getters. The kitchen is filled with free food and there's a foos ball table, so it is in many ways the dot com life, which so many of us love.
She's getting a new green condo overlooking AT&T Park and the Bay Bridge. She needed to start work, to qualify for the loan, to buy the condo, to live in the City, to work at Kiva.
She was bowled over by her first day's ending. She got home, and she didn't have 500 pages to read and twenty pages to write. Freedom from school, what to do with all the spare time!
On the homefront, we've been commuting to and from the coast. We rented a little cottage on a cliff overlooking the ocean. We've been taking the youngest grandchildren twice a week to play in the salt water and sand.
We're both firm believers in imprinting children with lots of experiences and love at the very beginning. -- not being hobbled by television and inside the box thinking.
On Sunday, we have a big family barbeque and celebration of her graduating. After that some things will begin to get calmer. Hopefully, I'll have time to sit down then.
lkwdblds
Crusader
Aryans of the Orient
Excellent question? My answer, which is just my opinion, is that Hitler had no designs on the Orient. He mainly wanted to rule Europe which was where his interests resided. The Orient had no Jews, no Poles, Czechs, Russians, Slavs, Gypsies or any of the groups he detested and thought were racially inferior. (Well there are some Asiatic Russians in Vladivostock, etc)
After WW I, Japan was part of a commission which was set up to observe Germany and make sure they did not re militarize. The Japanese had some responsiblity in assuring that Germany's Navy and their Air Force stayed small. According to the History Channel, the Japanese were willing to cut deals with Germany and look the other way and allow Germany to make Naval and Aircraft developments IF and this is a big IF, Germany would cut Japan in on their new technologies and share them with Japan. This was arranged. Throughout the late 1920's and 1930's, Japan did not look to the West for tech but began relying on Germany as their source for Western technology.
Also, Hitler was made aware of the elite Japanese warrior class, the Samurai and he knew they swore allegiance to their Emperor and placed Country and Emperor above their own lives. This all tied in to his World View and his position as the Furher of Germany. Since he "had no dog in the race" called Asia, he came to accept Japan as the elite in Asia, the equivalent there to the Aryan race.
I went on Google a few days ago and there are those who beleive that if Hitler had won World War II, once he had consolidated his power and stabalized relations with the USA and subjugated Britain, he may have tried to face down Japan and engage in a test of strength with them as well.
I reject this completely for many reasons. First of all, Hitler would turn 60 in 1949 and his family tree did not usually live beyond their 60's. He figured that he would die sometime around 1953 to 1956 and he was mainly interested in eliminating whatever Jews were left in Europe and then establishing his legacy. He had no time to mess around in Asia and no interest in doing so other than to make Asia secure for Germany.
Second, no one is 100% bad and Hitler had a trait of being loyal to certain people and groups especially if he had gone through a dangeous struggle with them and emerged victorious. He had a soft spot in his heart for his cronies who were with him from the beginning in the Nazi party and fought the battle with him to bring the Nazi's to power. He also had a soft spot for Mussolini who had started the first fascist dictatorship in Italy and who he initially used for his model. I believe he came to admire the Japanese people and developed a soft spot for them for taking on the United States and the West in general. He also patterned his SS after the Samurai and tried to instill them with the spirit of Bushido.
If Hitler would have won, he thought he would live only about 10 more years. If he was going to take on any more adversaries after fighting WWII, it certainly would not be his trusted ally Japan, a country with no Jews, the only Country he would have possibly gone after would have been the United States. He felt that the USA was the main base of World Jewry and Jews were behind Roosevelt and probably Truman and were pulling the strings for those presidents who were mainly figureheads and front men for world Jewry.
He bought off on Japan as being the Aryans of the Orient and the legitimate rulers there. That solved a lot of problems for him. The Jews would never get a foothold in Asia with Imperial Japan on guard there. He became comfortable with Japan ruling Asia and probably thought that was the natural order of things.
Lakey
Excellent question? My answer, which is just my opinion, is that Hitler had no designs on the Orient. He mainly wanted to rule Europe which was where his interests resided. The Orient had no Jews, no Poles, Czechs, Russians, Slavs, Gypsies or any of the groups he detested and thought were racially inferior. (Well there are some Asiatic Russians in Vladivostock, etc)
After WW I, Japan was part of a commission which was set up to observe Germany and make sure they did not re militarize. The Japanese had some responsiblity in assuring that Germany's Navy and their Air Force stayed small. According to the History Channel, the Japanese were willing to cut deals with Germany and look the other way and allow Germany to make Naval and Aircraft developments IF and this is a big IF, Germany would cut Japan in on their new technologies and share them with Japan. This was arranged. Throughout the late 1920's and 1930's, Japan did not look to the West for tech but began relying on Germany as their source for Western technology.
Also, Hitler was made aware of the elite Japanese warrior class, the Samurai and he knew they swore allegiance to their Emperor and placed Country and Emperor above their own lives. This all tied in to his World View and his position as the Furher of Germany. Since he "had no dog in the race" called Asia, he came to accept Japan as the elite in Asia, the equivalent there to the Aryan race.
I went on Google a few days ago and there are those who beleive that if Hitler had won World War II, once he had consolidated his power and stabalized relations with the USA and subjugated Britain, he may have tried to face down Japan and engage in a test of strength with them as well.
I reject this completely for many reasons. First of all, Hitler would turn 60 in 1949 and his family tree did not usually live beyond their 60's. He figured that he would die sometime around 1953 to 1956 and he was mainly interested in eliminating whatever Jews were left in Europe and then establishing his legacy. He had no time to mess around in Asia and no interest in doing so other than to make Asia secure for Germany.
Second, no one is 100% bad and Hitler had a trait of being loyal to certain people and groups especially if he had gone through a dangeous struggle with them and emerged victorious. He had a soft spot in his heart for his cronies who were with him from the beginning in the Nazi party and fought the battle with him to bring the Nazi's to power. He also had a soft spot for Mussolini who had started the first fascist dictatorship in Italy and who he initially used for his model. I believe he came to admire the Japanese people and developed a soft spot for them for taking on the United States and the West in general. He also patterned his SS after the Samurai and tried to instill them with the spirit of Bushido.
If Hitler would have won, he thought he would live only about 10 more years. If he was going to take on any more adversaries after fighting WWII, it certainly would not be his trusted ally Japan, a country with no Jews, the only Country he would have possibly gone after would have been the United States. He felt that the USA was the main base of World Jewry and Jews were behind Roosevelt and probably Truman and were pulling the strings for those presidents who were mainly figureheads and front men for world Jewry.
He bought off on Japan as being the Aryans of the Orient and the legitimate rulers there. That solved a lot of problems for him. The Jews would never get a foothold in Asia with Imperial Japan on guard there. He became comfortable with Japan ruling Asia and probably thought that was the natural order of things.
Lakey
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lkwdblds
Crusader
I never heard of the Nufadat
I never heard of the Nufadat, was it a model only sold in Japan? I know that Datsun was a product of Nissan Motors but Nissan chose to call their car line the Datsun. Many US Companies, were set up with car lines having different names than the parent corporation but the European and Japanese companies seem to always build their car using the corporate name, i.e. Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Suburaru, Suzuki. Nissan was the one exception.
For some reason, they decided to change over and call their main car line Nissan instead of Datsun. They also wanted to change their logo which is not very attractive, a circle with a thick horizonatal bard going through the middle of it. For some reason, when the name was changed, the logo was left alone. A new logo would greatly benefit them.
Nufadat sounds like an Ebonics word, it would be great for use in a rap song.
Packard Motors Returning?!
Packard was such a fine make of cars, when they went down the tubes, it left a real gap in the U.S. Market. Of course that gap has been filled by foreign makers many times over with Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Inifiniti and the British and Italian makes. Still having an American type Mercedes brand would be nice. At one time, the USA had the Duesenberg, the Pierce Arrow and the Packard. Add this to Cadillac, Lincoln and the Imperial from Chrysler and there were enormous choices in the United States in luxury cars.
Bugatti made a comeback, the new Bugatti, costing a cool million dollars, having 1000 horsepower, doing 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds and having a top end speed of 225 mph not kilometers but miles.
Duesenberg and others have attempted comebacks and most of them never get off the ground. The last real Packards were built in the USA for 1955 and 1956, a very nice and advanced line of cars. For 1957 and 1958, they tried to keep the brand alive while they looked for financing for a new line which they had designed. The '57s and '58's were just Studebakers with Packard engines and Packard grill and tail light assemblies. The were nicknamed Packardbakers and sold in very low volume, maybe 4,000 in 1957 and 3.000 in 1958. What a sad way for a famous luxury brand to end. Imagine Mercedes putting their logo, grill, tailights and an MB engine into a VW new Beetle and it would be kind of similar to Packard's swan song.
Lakey
Lakey
I never heard of the Nufadat, was it a model only sold in Japan? I know that Datsun was a product of Nissan Motors but Nissan chose to call their car line the Datsun. Many US Companies, were set up with car lines having different names than the parent corporation but the European and Japanese companies seem to always build their car using the corporate name, i.e. Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Suburaru, Suzuki. Nissan was the one exception.
For some reason, they decided to change over and call their main car line Nissan instead of Datsun. They also wanted to change their logo which is not very attractive, a circle with a thick horizonatal bard going through the middle of it. For some reason, when the name was changed, the logo was left alone. A new logo would greatly benefit them.
Nufadat sounds like an Ebonics word, it would be great for use in a rap song.
Packard Motors Returning?!
Packard was such a fine make of cars, when they went down the tubes, it left a real gap in the U.S. Market. Of course that gap has been filled by foreign makers many times over with Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, Inifiniti and the British and Italian makes. Still having an American type Mercedes brand would be nice. At one time, the USA had the Duesenberg, the Pierce Arrow and the Packard. Add this to Cadillac, Lincoln and the Imperial from Chrysler and there were enormous choices in the United States in luxury cars.
Bugatti made a comeback, the new Bugatti, costing a cool million dollars, having 1000 horsepower, doing 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds and having a top end speed of 225 mph not kilometers but miles.
Duesenberg and others have attempted comebacks and most of them never get off the ground. The last real Packards were built in the USA for 1955 and 1956, a very nice and advanced line of cars. For 1957 and 1958, they tried to keep the brand alive while they looked for financing for a new line which they had designed. The '57s and '58's were just Studebakers with Packard engines and Packard grill and tail light assemblies. The were nicknamed Packardbakers and sold in very low volume, maybe 4,000 in 1957 and 3.000 in 1958. What a sad way for a famous luxury brand to end. Imagine Mercedes putting their logo, grill, tailights and an MB engine into a VW new Beetle and it would be kind of similar to Packard's swan song.
Lakey
Lakey
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Ted
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I'm with Carmelo's choices!
For Lakey, this one has balls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYQeVbO_vw&feature=related
I respectfully disagree.
AC Cobra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnSyHEx8EWw&feature=fvsr
Corvette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYdBmeEO0rk
E Type
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkrn6twMi4c
I 'll take these cars for looks any day of the week.
For Lakey, this one has balls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTYQeVbO_vw&feature=related
afaceinthecrowd
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Time for “My Enfield” Story
Okay, okay…you guys really got me goin’ now.
As I wasn’t Zen enough to have a “Corn Binder” GT I could drive off a cliff at San Luis Reservoir to get up to “thrills speed”...I had to rely on my “Royal Cornfield” to get my kicks.
In the heady days before Mrs. Face the 1st, Young Face would periodically take off on a 1 or 2 week road-trip to either find himself, lose himself or both. Sometimes the roadster was the vehicle of escape and other times it was the bike.
40 years ago or so there was a stretch of US Highway 95 in Nevada and Oregon that was as open and desolate as a highway can be. The 80 mile stretch from the Oregon border to Winnemucca, Nevada was especially good road, mostly flat with nary a bend across the high desert and, back then, very little traffic and pretty much no speed limit.
It was an early Summer Sunday morning and Face was cruising his way south on 95 from Burns Junction, Oregon towards Winnemucca, Nevada. Face learned a few years earlier that, although not macho-looking, wearing a helmet and goggles was much smarter than a bare head and sunglasses when riding in open country—the lesson came when Face was nearly knocked unconscious by a large beetle between the eyes at 90 mph.
With the throttle spring tension off and the steering damper cinched down Face was loafing along, hands free, at about 50 mph, "being in the moment" as he crossed into Nevada. A few miles in an XKE Roadster whizzed by, heading north at 120 mph at least. The Jag would be the last car Face would see until just outside Winnemucca.
A few miles later two Biker Dude wannabees rumbled up behind on ¼ chopped Harleys. The Biker Dudes pulled up even and, still hands free, Face gave a little wave. The Dudes nodded a little ack and commenced to revving. Face held out his hands with a little “nah” shrug. The Dudes responded by making taunting gestures about Face’s helmet and goggles, more revving and goosing up a few yards, falling back and goosing again. After a mile or so they tired of Face not playing and gunned their bikes, leaving him to his loafing—or, so he thought. These were the days before the Nip Superbikes and Norton Commandos and HD Sportsters were considered very fast bikes.
When the Dudes got about a ¼ mile out in front they shut down and coasted along until Face caught up with them. Again, they played the revving, goosing and gunning game and, again, Face did not play. Again, they shut down and coasted until Face caught up.
At this point Face was ready to play.
Now, before I get to the “good part”, a little sidebar re: RE. Royal Enfield Interceptors were not “Stop Light Charlie” machines. They were made to do a few things very, very well—go fast, corner and be smooth and stable while doing so. They had high compression engines with tons of torque and were geared “Tall”. RE’s loved to drink the 104 Octane that was available back then. All that, with a full tank weight of just under 400lbs, meant accelerating from 50mph to 130+mph on an RE was quick and breathtaking.
As the revving and goosing game commenced yet again, Face reached out, set the throttle spring and loosened the steering damper. This made the Dudes very happy and off they ran, flat out.
Face followed the Dudes about 15 yards back until they topped out at around 110 or so. When Face pulled even with them the look on their faces was priceless. Face revved them, shifted from 3rd to 4th, put his feet back and flopped down the buddy pegs, laid out over his rucksack that was lashed to the tank, and let her buck.
Poof…no more Biker Dudes.
In not much time Face was in Winnemucca, he and RE were thirsty and all the epinephrine pumped through Face’s system had made him powerful hungry. As Face was finishing his cheeseburger, fries and coke the Biker Dudes pulled up next to the RE parked in front of the Gas Station/Diner. The Dudes just sat there and gawked, jawed and pointed at various parts of the little British Bastard that had cleaned their clocks. Face strolled out to his Beast and the conversation went something like this.
“Man, what the f… is that f...ing son of a bitch, man?” asked one of the Dudes, apparently unable to read the distinctive “Royal Enfield Interceptor” badge on the gas tank.
“A Royal Enfield,” Face answered over the throb of the two Harleys.
“A Royal Cornfield?!” yelled the Dude.
“No…Enfield…like the rifle…Enfield rifle.”
“Never heard of ‘em…where’d you get it.”
“You order them from England…they ship them to you in a crate.”
“No shit, man?. Hey, weez headed over to the whorehouse in Ely…you wanna ride with us?” offered the Dude.
“Wish I could,” Face lied, “but I gotta be headin’ south.”
With that, the Biker Dudes shook Face's hand and rumbled off to their whores and Young Face headed for Carson City, and on to the sweeping bends and vistas of the Sierra Nevada.
Face
Okay, okay…you guys really got me goin’ now.
As I wasn’t Zen enough to have a “Corn Binder” GT I could drive off a cliff at San Luis Reservoir to get up to “thrills speed”...I had to rely on my “Royal Cornfield” to get my kicks.
In the heady days before Mrs. Face the 1st, Young Face would periodically take off on a 1 or 2 week road-trip to either find himself, lose himself or both. Sometimes the roadster was the vehicle of escape and other times it was the bike.
40 years ago or so there was a stretch of US Highway 95 in Nevada and Oregon that was as open and desolate as a highway can be. The 80 mile stretch from the Oregon border to Winnemucca, Nevada was especially good road, mostly flat with nary a bend across the high desert and, back then, very little traffic and pretty much no speed limit.
It was an early Summer Sunday morning and Face was cruising his way south on 95 from Burns Junction, Oregon towards Winnemucca, Nevada. Face learned a few years earlier that, although not macho-looking, wearing a helmet and goggles was much smarter than a bare head and sunglasses when riding in open country—the lesson came when Face was nearly knocked unconscious by a large beetle between the eyes at 90 mph.
With the throttle spring tension off and the steering damper cinched down Face was loafing along, hands free, at about 50 mph, "being in the moment" as he crossed into Nevada. A few miles in an XKE Roadster whizzed by, heading north at 120 mph at least. The Jag would be the last car Face would see until just outside Winnemucca.
A few miles later two Biker Dude wannabees rumbled up behind on ¼ chopped Harleys. The Biker Dudes pulled up even and, still hands free, Face gave a little wave. The Dudes nodded a little ack and commenced to revving. Face held out his hands with a little “nah” shrug. The Dudes responded by making taunting gestures about Face’s helmet and goggles, more revving and goosing up a few yards, falling back and goosing again. After a mile or so they tired of Face not playing and gunned their bikes, leaving him to his loafing—or, so he thought. These were the days before the Nip Superbikes and Norton Commandos and HD Sportsters were considered very fast bikes.
When the Dudes got about a ¼ mile out in front they shut down and coasted along until Face caught up with them. Again, they played the revving, goosing and gunning game and, again, Face did not play. Again, they shut down and coasted until Face caught up.
At this point Face was ready to play.
Now, before I get to the “good part”, a little sidebar re: RE. Royal Enfield Interceptors were not “Stop Light Charlie” machines. They were made to do a few things very, very well—go fast, corner and be smooth and stable while doing so. They had high compression engines with tons of torque and were geared “Tall”. RE’s loved to drink the 104 Octane that was available back then. All that, with a full tank weight of just under 400lbs, meant accelerating from 50mph to 130+mph on an RE was quick and breathtaking.
As the revving and goosing game commenced yet again, Face reached out, set the throttle spring and loosened the steering damper. This made the Dudes very happy and off they ran, flat out.
Face followed the Dudes about 15 yards back until they topped out at around 110 or so. When Face pulled even with them the look on their faces was priceless. Face revved them, shifted from 3rd to 4th, put his feet back and flopped down the buddy pegs, laid out over his rucksack that was lashed to the tank, and let her buck.
Poof…no more Biker Dudes.
In not much time Face was in Winnemucca, he and RE were thirsty and all the epinephrine pumped through Face’s system had made him powerful hungry. As Face was finishing his cheeseburger, fries and coke the Biker Dudes pulled up next to the RE parked in front of the Gas Station/Diner. The Dudes just sat there and gawked, jawed and pointed at various parts of the little British Bastard that had cleaned their clocks. Face strolled out to his Beast and the conversation went something like this.
“Man, what the f… is that f...ing son of a bitch, man?” asked one of the Dudes, apparently unable to read the distinctive “Royal Enfield Interceptor” badge on the gas tank.
“A Royal Enfield,” Face answered over the throb of the two Harleys.
“A Royal Cornfield?!” yelled the Dude.
“No…Enfield…like the rifle…Enfield rifle.”
“Never heard of ‘em…where’d you get it.”
“You order them from England…they ship them to you in a crate.”
“No shit, man?. Hey, weez headed over to the whorehouse in Ely…you wanna ride with us?” offered the Dude.
“Wish I could,” Face lied, “but I gotta be headin’ south.”
With that, the Biker Dudes shook Face's hand and rumbled off to their whores and Young Face headed for Carson City, and on to the sweeping bends and vistas of the Sierra Nevada.
Face
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lkwdblds
Crusader
Different Strokes for Differrent Folks
This post got screwed up, I need to redo it. It was in reply to Ted's 1962 Studebaker GT Hawk post. The GT Hawk was an update made to the 1953 Studebaker Coupe body to add a classic grill and a squared off roof line, something like the Lincoln Continental of 1962. It was a clever face lift and produced the desired effect but it would not be among my top styling choices because it was just fiddle farting around with an earlier design.
On the AC Cobra, I am starting to come around. The shape is basic but purposeful. It is very clean and simple, my only objection is that it may not be destinctive enough but that it is nearly taken care of with the decals, the roll bar and the exhaust headers. The honest simplicity of the shape which though simples announces a purpose to the car and stirs up a lot of emotions has changed my mind and I now deem it a classic among the best.
Lakey
This post got screwed up, I need to redo it. It was in reply to Ted's 1962 Studebaker GT Hawk post. The GT Hawk was an update made to the 1953 Studebaker Coupe body to add a classic grill and a squared off roof line, something like the Lincoln Continental of 1962. It was a clever face lift and produced the desired effect but it would not be among my top styling choices because it was just fiddle farting around with an earlier design.
On the AC Cobra, I am starting to come around. The shape is basic but purposeful. It is very clean and simple, my only objection is that it may not be destinctive enough but that it is nearly taken care of with the decals, the roll bar and the exhaust headers. The honest simplicity of the shape which though simples announces a purpose to the car and stirs up a lot of emotions has changed my mind and I now deem it a classic among the best.
Lakey
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CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
It was a joke - a play on words
That's Enough of That
Dats UnNuf a Dat
That's Enough of That
Dats UnNuf a Dat
afaceinthecrowd
Gold Meritorious Patron
Dat sfunny!
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
When you're dancing with your hunny, and your nose is kinda runny, and you're thinkin' that it's funny, but it's snot.
CarmeloOrchards
Crusader
Okay, okay…you guys really got me goin’ now.
As I wasn’t Zen enough to have a “Corn Binder” GT I could drive off a cliff at San Luis Reservoir to get up to “thrills speed”...I had to rely on my “Royal Cornfield” to get my kicks.
In the heady days before Mrs. Face the 1st, Young Face would periodically take off on a 1 or 2 week road-trip to either find himself, lose himself or both. Sometimes the roadster was the vehicle of escape and other times it was the bike.
40 years ago or so there was a stretch of US Highway 95 in Nevada and Oregon that was as open and desolate as a highway can be. The 80 mile stretch from the Oregon border to Winnemucca, Nevada was especially good road, mostly flat with nary a bend across the high desert and, back then, very little traffic and pretty much no speed limit.
It was an early summer Sunday morning and Face was cruising his way south on 95 from Burns Junction, Oregon towards Winnemucca, Nevada. Face learned a few years earlier that, although not macho-looking, wearing a helmet and goggles was much smarter than a bare head and sunglasses when riding in open country—the lesson came when Face was nearly knocked unconscious by a large beetle between the eyes at 90 mph.
With the throttle spring tension off and the steering damper cinched down Face was loafing along, hands free, at about 50 mph, being "in the moment" as he crossed into Nevada. A few miles in an XKE Roadster whizzed by, heading north at 120 mph at least. The Jag would be the last car Face would see until just outside Winnemucca.
A few miles later two Biker Dude wannabees rumbled up behind on ¼ chopped Harleys. The Biker Dudes pulled up even with and, still hands free, Face gave a little wave. The Dudes nodded a little ack and commenced to revving. Face held out his hands with a little “nah” shrug. The Dudes responded by making taunting gestures about Face’s helmet and goggles, more revving and goosing up a few yards, falling back and goosing again. After a mile or so they tired of Face not playing and gunned their bikes leaving him to his loafing—or, so he thought. These were the days before the Nip Superbikes and Norton Commandos and HD Sportsters were considered very fast bikes.
When the Dudes got about a ¼ mile out in front they shut down and coasted along until Face caught up with them. Again, they played the revving, goosing and gunning game and, again, Face did not play. Again, they shut down and coasted until Face caught up.
At this point Face was ready to play.
Now, before I get to the “good part”, a little sidebar re: RE’s. Royal Enfield Interceptors were not “Stop Light Charlie” machines. They were made to do a few things very, very well—go fast, corner and be smooth and stable while doing same. They had high compression engines with tons of torque and were geared “Tall”. RE’s loved to drink the 104 Octane that was available back then. All that, with a full tank weight of just under 400lbs, means 50mph to 130+mph on an RE was quick and breathtaking.
As the revving and goosing game commenced yet again, Face reached out, set the throttle spring and loosened the steering damper. This made the Dudes very happy and off they ran, flat out.
Face followed the Dudes about 15 yards back until they topped out at around 110 or so. When Face pulled even with them the look on their faces was priceless. Face revved them, shifted from 3rd to 4th, put his feet back and flopped down the buddy pegs, laid out over his rucksack that was lashed to the tank, and let her buck.
Poof…no more Biker Dudes.
In not much time Face was in Winnemucca, he and RE were thirsty and all the epinephrine pumped through Face’s system had made him powerful hungry. As Face was finishing his cheeseburger, fries and coke the Biker Dudes pulled up next to the RE parked in front of the Gas Station/Diner. The Dudes just sat there and gawked, jawed and pointed at various parts of the little British Bastard that had cleaned their clocks. Face strolled out to his Beast and the conversation went something like this.
“Man, what the f… is that f...ing son of a bitch, man?” asked one of the Dudes, apparently unable to read the distinctive “Royal Enfield Interceptor” badge on the gas tank.
“A Royal Enfield,” Face answered over the throb of the two Harleys.
“A Royal Cornfield?!” yelled the Dude.
“No…Enfield…like the rifle…Enfield rifle.”
“Never heard of ‘em…where’d you get it.”
“You order them from England…they ship them to you in a crate.”
“No shit, man?. Hey, weez headed over to the whorehouse in Ely…you wanna ride with us?” offered the Dude.
“Wish I could,” Face lied, “but I gotta be headin’ south.”
With that, the Dudes shook Faces hand and rumbled off to their whores and Young Face headed for Carson City, and on to the sweeping bends and vistas of the Sierra Nevada.
Face
Good story. loved the bug in the face.
lkwdblds
Crusader
Very clever
Very clever, with all my talk about critical thinking skills, I totally missed the point. Perry Mason and Lieutenant Columbo would send me to cramming.
I was trying to cook up a name for the last Toyota. You know, with all the recent bad publicity about their quality control they decide to drop the brand and change to another brand name.
HEADLINE
Toyota says to Toyota share holders, "Hey yo, To yo no mo!" The last model to call itself a Toyota will be the "Toyonomo"
FOLLOW UP HEADLINE THE NEXT DAY
Toyota Motors announces a deal with its arch rival Nissan Motors to purchase the rights to their defunct brand name Datsun. Terms have been set at $4 Billion for the buy out. The headline is shortened to read.
DATS UNUF ADAT - TOYO NO MO - TOYO NOW DATS UN DAT IS DAT!
Lakey
P.S. I might have to bring in Helluva Hoax as a consultant to clean this up.
Very clever, with all my talk about critical thinking skills, I totally missed the point. Perry Mason and Lieutenant Columbo would send me to cramming.
I was trying to cook up a name for the last Toyota. You know, with all the recent bad publicity about their quality control they decide to drop the brand and change to another brand name.
HEADLINE
Toyota says to Toyota share holders, "Hey yo, To yo no mo!" The last model to call itself a Toyota will be the "Toyonomo"
FOLLOW UP HEADLINE THE NEXT DAY
Toyota Motors announces a deal with its arch rival Nissan Motors to purchase the rights to their defunct brand name Datsun. Terms have been set at $4 Billion for the buy out. The headline is shortened to read.
DATS UNUF ADAT - TOYO NO MO - TOYO NOW DATS UN DAT IS DAT!
Lakey
P.S. I might have to bring in Helluva Hoax as a consultant to clean this up.
FoTi
Crusader
Hi Carmelo:
Are you coming to the 4th of July party? Our mutual friends the OT 7s who are still on lines at Flag already confirmed
Aida
Wow! I hope you post here what they have to say at your party.
FoTi
Crusader
Carmelo - sounds like you have such a wonderful family life. I really envy you - I wish I had a family life like what you have. It's really something to be cherished. I think you are very fortunate.
FoTi
Crusader
This was my favorite car back then....
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/225863,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403260,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403258,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
But, I couldn't afford it, so I had to settle for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5OvULMVuA&feature=related
I luved this car ... it was a dream to drive....the engine was so smoooth...white with red leather interior....very comfortable....and oh so pretty! But, it had to be driven fast to keep the engine from clogging up and I almost got toasted a couple of times on the streets of L.A., ....so, I sold it to keep from destroying myself, after my girlfriend's husband flipped his Triumph, broke his neck and was paralyzed for life.
He was only 19 or 20 and that scared me out of keeping that beautiful car, after the close calls I had already had with it. But, I sure enjoyed it while I had it.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/225863,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403260,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403258,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
But, I couldn't afford it, so I had to settle for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5OvULMVuA&feature=related
I luved this car ... it was a dream to drive....the engine was so smoooth...white with red leather interior....very comfortable....and oh so pretty! But, it had to be driven fast to keep the engine from clogging up and I almost got toasted a couple of times on the streets of L.A., ....so, I sold it to keep from destroying myself, after my girlfriend's husband flipped his Triumph, broke his neck and was paralyzed for life.
He was only 19 or 20 and that scared me out of keeping that beautiful car, after the close calls I had already had with it. But, I sure enjoyed it while I had it.
afaceinthecrowd
Gold Meritorious Patron
This was my favorite car back then....
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/225863,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403260,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/403258,10905/1959-Mercedes-Benz-190-SL_photo.aspx
But, I couldn't afford it, so I had to settle for this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5OvULMVuA&feature=related
I luved this car ... it was a dream to drive....the engine was so smoooth...white with red leather interior....very comfortable....and oh so pretty! But, it had to be driven fast to keep the engine from clogging up and I almost got toasted a couple of times on the streets of L.A., ....so, I sold it to keep from destroying myself, after my girlfriend's husband flipped his Triumph, broke his neck and was paralyzed for life.
I like 'em both...a lot...classics.
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