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I really agree with you about the auditing. Just knowing that the person really duplicates and cares and asks the right questions does clear up and organise the mind a lot I've found.

It's funny you should explain about your cat. As I entered this thread, I wondered about her a few times and you have answered my question. She's beautiful. No wonder you called her Bella.

Hi Smartone! It's great that you agree with my comments about "listening, duplicating and acknowledging". I hope you read the follow up comments by Ted, he much of interest to say about the subject.

This topic could be the topic the total Ex scientologists and the Indie and Freezoners can agree on.

Surely nearly everyone has some reality that that the technique is workable, either by using it on others or having some else do it on you. Anyone can start a conversation on a park bench or while waiting in line for a food order to be filled. When applied properly, the talker often feels the listener is a special person, unlike the masses of people he/she has dealt with.

The technique was not invented or discovered by Hubbard. He did organize it and emphasized it at the entry gates into Scn but then he appeared to drop it and pursue other more lucrative processes. No credit has to be given to Hubbard and he can be criticized for not promoting it more and letting it slide to protect his income potential. This should keep the "Exes" happy.

Meanwhile a person could be trained to administer this skill in one quick session which could be done for free. A little more time would be well spent covering some theory on why it works and then doing some drilling. As Ted mentioned, if several thousand practioners were applying this technique out in the "real" world, society would likely become less hostile and more caring.

WIN - A friend of mine gave my number to a man about my age who trained at the Orange County Org back in the 70's when it was a mission. He achieved Dianetic Clear and also did some training at ASHO. He left because he felt the mission and ASHO were becoming too militaristic.

He called me two days ago, Sunday, and we talked for 45 minutes or so. He told me that he learned the "listen, duplicate and acknowledge" technique back in the 70's and has continued to use it these 35 years since he quit Scn. He says that a lot of people tell him that he has special powers and healing gifts and all he is doing is listening to people talk in the coffee shops around where he lives. He has had not contact with any Scientologist, still in, Ex or Freezone since he left 35 years ago. He was taught it was a suppressive act to discuss Scn with others and had not discussed it with anyone for 35 years until he talked to me on Sunday. I turned him on to ESMB and also this thread. We are going to meet for coffee in a week or so. The fact that he appeared just after I posted on this very subject that he still uses is really a coincidence.
Lakey
 
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Very Nice Quote from Steve Jobs!

"Being the richest man in the cemetery doesn't matter to me. Going to bed at night saying we've done something wonderful, that's what matters to me."

- Steve Jobs


Lakey
 
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This ^^^^^ I can relate to. And absolutlely agree with.

Oh, and sailing too. Yachting. The water and the boat and the win and cutting it so fine upwind and just seeing the boat hold the water and stay on tack . . . . much better than sex.

I agree
 
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Originally Posted by CarmeloOrchards

talk about exteriorization processes. there is nothing, nothing in this world that surpasses riding with / on a horse in the midst of a race across hill and dale, river and stream. BEING the horse, seeing the race as your horse sees it, feeling the strength, the passion. IT IS AN INCOMPARABLE FEELING.

This ^^^^^ I can relate to. And absolutlely agree with.

Oh, and sailing too. Yachting. The water and the boat and the win and cutting it so fine upwind and just seeing the boat hold the water and stay on tack . . . . much better than sex.

Yes, I'll go along with both these sentiments, as a sailor and horseman . . . and add riding very big Pacific rollers (both body surfing and using a board) and big-time alpine skiing. I also used to get high on ice speed skating . . . it is a beautiful feeling with 16+" blades on your feet feeling the power of your strokes as you glide the ice!

At a minimum, these activities has one existing absolutely, ecstatically "in the moment." Total present time awareness.

Rog
 
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Hey, I can do that with my pectorals :p :ohmy: . . . . but I'll buy her version of it any time! :yes:

R
 
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Hey, I can do that with my pectorals :p :ohmy: . . . . but I'll buy her version of it any time! :yes:

R


I thought my idea of providing cycle generators to the unemployed to add value to the electrical grid in exchange for their check was a new idea. Apparently it is not so new.
 
Jack Kennedy by Chris Matthews

http://mojoe.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...s-matthews-new-book-jack-kennedy-elusive-hero

I saw Chris Matthews touting his book, "Jack Kennedy Elusive Hero" this morning on Morning Joe.

I just downloaded it to my iPod.

For those of us, of a certain age, it really looks good.

One of the events related was that Kennedy and Nixon were buddies. They traveled to a (presidential) debate together, ate together, flipped a coin for top berth on the train ride back, talked "cold war" before the term was coined.

I like Chris Matthews. He is a real mensch. Not just a polemic spouting fake journalist.

Starting from page 1, I am hooked.

my wife just got the Jackie bio, I think I got the better view.
 
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OK it's late. This is just about that anything goes time since no posts since 7 pm here.

THE AMERICAN COMMUNITY SURVEY

DOES ANYONE ELSE THINK THIS MANDATORY SURVEY STEPS OVER THE LINE. Read the lower part if you open the link to see the BOLDNESS of these questions. The survey is mandatory and carries a five hundred dollar fine for incorrect answers given deliberately.

I feel the same way as the author of the article.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article6074-invasion-of-privacy-the-american-community-survey.html

From what I understand they want to do away with the Social Security tax as it gives higher ends of society a better life than the rest in later years coming out of taxes. The govt wants to decide who gets security in our social system according to needs. Big Brother wants all the power and wants to decide who to hand it down to according to their own terms and not antiquated promises.
No random sampling survey could tell the census bureau if they need more highway money appropriated to a zip code. And give me a break.... the envelope is addressed 'resident' as if they don't know who's ass they are snooping up. They know exactly WHO they want some more info on. I also hear that if you answer the 28 page inquisition you may get update questionaires every six months.

[video]http://youtu.be/B1XzHKYcLB8[/video]

From what I understand, as the man speaking in the video states ...they already HAVE the answers to those questions in their govt data banks! THEREFORE the reason to collect the data again is to compare notes. Notes on who is on railroad or govt disability and still 'working'. Who is on welfare and only has one child living in the house when they forgot they are claiming 2 child deductions in tax credits. Who worked while on unemployment and did not report it. Who is getting medical assistance when they live in a house that costs too much for them to be eligible. ALL of these things will help the new regime track it's dollars. They are snooping out fraud and trying to trick people up....like who is actually living in the back room of the machine shop free while getting rental assistance for a private apartment. Or who claimed to be living at their present residence last year when their granny on SSI who owns and lives their also reported she was totally responsible for her own bills and no other income earners lived in her house.. What a croc. Why should WE have to answer such thinly veiled questions that tell the govt that someone got our tax money and forgot to report that they worked six hours last week selling lemonade.

Obama hired this cat, Robert M Groves as the new census chief. He has been working in Louisiana and Maryland (can you say district of columbia) and other places. Places where you cannot possibly keep track of where the money that provides us with our general societal social security needs goes. Where was he after Katrina. I think this is a lead into a different type of entitlement reform we had not counted on. :unsure:
 
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The author says, "I received a letter telling me that soon I would be receiving the American Community Survey, and that I was required to complete it and send it back. I was told that this information was crucial to the planning of my community for such important infrastructure items as fire stations, libraries, and schools."


I says, fire stations, libraries, and schools are local issues. The federal government needs to butt out.

As for the questions, I do not even talk with my best friends about most of these things. All I require of the federal government is laid out in the Constitution. Knock off the social engineering. Please!
 
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Right!
Couldn't help but open the link to prove the point. I'm so furious! I relented and put my mandatory completely filled out survey in the curbside mailbox for pickup an hour ago. I hated that I felt strong-armed to do it too. I got two more notices to fill out and return the survey they said I should have received before I finally buckled and answered their questions and before they sent someone to my door or to the neighbors' to query regarding the 'resident' here.

Phone Number including Area Code

Sex

Age and Birth Date

If I am of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin

My race

What type of house I live in

When my house was built(year)

When I moved into this house(year)

How large is the lot?

Is there a business on this location?

How many separate rooms are in this house, apartment, or mobile home?

How many of these rooms are bedrooms?

Do I have

Hot and Cold Running Water?

Flush Toilet?

Bathtub or shower?

Sink with a faucet?

Stove or Range?

Refrigerator?

Telephone Service?

How many vehicles of 1 ton or less are kept at this address?

What fuel is used to heat this house, apartment, or mobile home?

What was the cost of electricity last month?

What was the cost of gas last month?

What was the cost of water and sewer for the past twelve months?

Did I receive Food Stamps?

Is my house, apartment or mobile home part of a condominium, and if yes, what are the fees?

Do I own the house with a mortgage?

Do I own this house free and clear?

Do I rent?

Do I occupy without rent?

What is the monthly rent for this house, apartment, or mobile home?

How much do I think this house, apartment, or mobile home would sell for?

What are the annual property taxes?

What is the annual property and flood insurance?

How much is the regular monthly mortgage?

Does that include the property taxes?

Does that include the insurance?

Do I have a second mortgage on this property?

How much are the monthly payments on all second and junior mortgages?

Where I was born?

Am I a citizen?

Have I attended college or school in the last three months?

What is my highest degree or level of school completed?

If I have a bachelor's degree, what is it in?

What is my ancestry or ethnic origin?

Do I speak any other languages besides English at home?

How well do I speak English?

Did I live here 1 year ago?

Do I have health insurance?

What type?

Do I have difficulty hearing or am I blind?

Do I have difficulty doing physical, mental, or emotional conditions that make it difficult for me to do errands alone, such as shopping or visiting a doctor's office?

Am I married?

Did I get married, widowed, or divorced in the last twelve months?

How many times have I been married?

What year did I last get married?

Am I a grandparent responsible for a grandchild living here?

How long have I been responsible for the grandchildren?

Have I ever served on active duty?

If so, when?

Do I have a VA service-connected Disability rating?

What is that rating?

Did I work for pay last week at a business?

Last week did I do any work for pay?

At what location did I do this work?

What is the address?

How did I get to work last week?

How many people rode with me to work?

When did I leave my house to go to work?

How many minutes does it usually take?

Who was my most recent job with? Name and location

What kind of work do I do?

What are my most important activities or duties?

What are my wages for the last twelve months?

What is my self-employment income for the last twelve months?

What are my interest and dividends(even small amounts)?

What are my social security or Railroad retirement amounts?

What are my Supplemental Social Security Income amounts?

Did I receive any public assistance or welfare payments from state or local welfare offices?

If so, how much?

What was my total income in the last twelve months?

(To my shock, there is no question about capital gains)

As I said, I cannot imagine giving anyone I know the answers to all of these questions, and I will not be doing so now.

All I will say is that one person lives here. If that affects the fire stations, libraries, and schools in a negative way, so be it. But the rest of the information is personal.

How far are we willing to go to let the government into our lives? Is there no limit to what they can sk of us? Or does it fall upon us to not only say "NO", but "HELL NO!!!"

I understand there is a $100 fine for not completing the form, and a $500 fine for giving false information. Perhaps this could be a new source of revenue for the government: keep your privacy for a $100 fee.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/19/obama-yields-to-liberal-outcry-on-entitlement-reform/
 
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Answers to many of the questions are already a matter of public record. So my question: Is this the government asking or some parallel/shadow organization or an outfit within the government with nefarious purposes?

Well, probably just some outfit/department justifying their existence after long and hard deviation from the Constitutional basics. Politicians who feel the need to exercise social engineering in this country are in Treason.
 
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Answers to many of the questions are already a matter of public record. So my question: Is this the government asking or some parallel/shadow organization or an outfit within the government with nefarious purposes?

Well, probably just some outfit/department justifying their existence after long and hard deviation from the Constitutional basics. Politicians who feel the need to exercise social engineering in this country are in Treason.

Yep! I go with that. TREASON!!!
I can remember when Americans turned Communist used to be hanged for their insidious attempts to undermine a great nation.

We as a nation are broke and we need an entitllement reform, but people who are innocent are having to pay a high price for what corrupt politicians gave away in order to get their votes. That price is freedom if we are to live under a big benefactor and nothing is again considered rightly 'earned'__ just 'gifted' through government credits which can be denied if govt chooses.
 
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Today is Chevrolet's 100th Anniverasry

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Then there was this classic Hertz commercial with Chevy convertibles over the years

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Make mine the Impala with that wide front seat I'll be cruising with my Honey by my side. And when I am not doing that, all my dorky friends will be piled in front and back looking for trouble.

1965. What a great year!
 
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Make mine the Impala with that wide front seat I'll be cruising with my Honey by my side. And when I am not doing that, all my dorky friends will be piled in front and back looking for trouble.

1965. What a great year!

as a teenager, who made use of a full seat across the front, I never understood the attraction of bucket seats.
 
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as a teenager, who made use of a full seat across the front, I never understood the attraction of bucket seats.


Going "all the way" and bucket seats are possible but not comfortably compatible. :coolwink:
 
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