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Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australia

Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Pull yout head out of your ass. OK. You may need medical or other help.


http://vridar.wordpress.com/2007/06/29/10-characteristics-of-fundamentalism/

Point 5:-


"5. There is only one true religion and one correct way of life; and these must be defended against inroads from other religions and secularism.

[ not to mention squirrels and critics]

Religious pluralism is a problem for the fundamentalist. The fundamentalist, whether Christian, Judaistic or Islamic, will accept all but only into one exclusive “truth”.

-snip-

The question is: Are you a dupe or a deliberate deceiver?

Oh, and thanks for the usual crude comments; it's always a pleasure to hear from you. Give my best to the other Scientology Clears and OTs.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

The question is: Are you a dupe or a deliberate deceiver?

Oh, and thanks for the usual crude comments; it's always a pleasure to hear from you. Give my best to the other Scientology Clears and OTs.

Such a question is clearly from one who tries to manipulate.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Hellovahoax said :-

".........would be enough to nuke Scientology's volcano."


You really into such language?


Apparently, I guess I am because I wrote it.

But I have no idea what you are trying to say.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Outstanding idea!

Knowing the Chinese culture very well (or any Asian culture for that matter) all they need to do is frame (position) the speech and written materials as a dangerous cult that breaks and tears apart families with no respect for the parents and ancestors. Highlighting "disconnection" where Scientologists are criminally prevented from talking to their brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, grandparents and relatives would be enough to nuke Scientology's volcano.

The Chinese have a magnificent tradition and beautiful culture of profound respect around family, parents and ancestors. The very idea that someone outside of the family militantly enforces disconnection, stops all mail, phone & email would be a death-blow to the cult.

67,000 years of humans living in China/Taiwan cannot simply be "erased" by arrogant, insulting, lying, disrespectful cult members wearing naval costumes.

Quite in addition to the crimes of kidnapping and illegally enforced disconnections, the arrogance alone is anathema to the cherished Chinese value of humility.

Prediction: The cult dies an agonizing death as word of criminal anti-family cult propagates virally throughout Asia's very well developed internet-driven social networks of instant messenger, email and websites.

I agree. The "Scientology Breaks up Families" message will be the death of the scientology cult in Taiwan.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

The following is translated from ptt.cc, the front end to one of the largest BBS in Taiwan, where almost all college students are registered. The victim is well known to the Church of Scientology and her brother made public the incident with real names. The Australian Federal Police, Taiwan Ministry of Foreign Affairs and local hospitals have plenty of records. Australian media is aware. The OP sanitized the names.

OP:

This happened to my colleague. One day he disappeared after work. I asked around and heard that he went to work in Australia. This is common so I didn't ask. Until a few days ago he came back and turned up at a company event. I didn't chat with him much because I thought that he completed his task in Australia and resumed his duties.

This is what he posted on the community page of the company on Facebook, and asked us to tell as many people as possible. Please consider very carefully in joining any religious groups.

Victim's brother Jake:

I am beginning my military service. There is something that I want to be honest with you. Also, please help! As a matter of fact, I don't have direct connections to the xx bureau, but I think our bureau has influence in the world.

I was stunned when xx said that I was gone without saying goodbye. But that is what actually happened. First, I asked for a few days off, and then disappeared. I went to Australia. Doing what? I didn't say clearly and honestly. But in fact, it isn't glorious.

This is what happened. My sister Alisa joined a religion — Scientology. She went to Australia using religious reasons. Three months later, my sister called home. She told us that she was imprisoned, beaten and abused in a Scientology base. She needed us there to rescue her. Unbelievable! We first thought it was one of the fake kidnapping schemes that cheats ransom money out of us. But it was no doubt my sister. She was sent to a hospital because of serious injuries. The Australian medical system isolated her from Scientologists, so she had the chance to call home for help.

First, we asked for help from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Taiwan. The Ministry staff pointed out that on average, an incident occurs every three months when parents come looking for their children. These children all went to Scientology in Australia, and mostly disappeared.

Later, I came across anti-Scientology groups. Nearly all of them ex-followers escaped from Scientology. With their help, I went to the unfamiliar Australia with connections. But my sister went to a psychiatric hospital. Although in my opinion, apart from the physical wounds, she has no mental problems. Australia's mental health care system is very strict, not easily allowing patients to be discharged. My sister stayed in the hospital under observation for nearly two months. So I checked into the home of an ex-Scientologist, commuting to visit my sister almost every day. I also listened to an ex-Scientologist, once trapped inside for more than 10 years, for a lot of inhumane treatments inside. During the hospital stay the Australian Federal Police came to take note. I'm back now after two months.

It seemed very exaggerated, very serious, but this is real, all true. What I ask everyone to help is to talk about it. Let everyone know that "Scientology" is engaged in such things, because Scientology is here in Taiwan. And that is what I introduced to others like a salesman. A friend introduced me, and I introduced Scientology to my sister. My sister went to the headquarter in Dundas, where she was abused. Now I know how terrible Scientology is. In fact, I believe somebody know about the Scientology scandals in the bureau, bro' xx and lil' x ... But no one warned me! Why? Could be because I was in the midst of pleasure!

Lil' x, please take the trouble to send my message to the priest during worship. Ask him to tell the faithful that they must be especially careful of Scientology, because the surface looks quite gorgeous and beautiful, but in the name of religion, to do good, to help, to learn knowledge, it's actually a money-making fraud, and even engages in human trafficking.

Strictly speaking this is a private matter, but thank you for help anyway. After my military service I will be back to the bureau, but I may be in Australia for a period of time to sue the Church of Scientology.



Scientology need to drop the Church from their name........Do they have Sunday Church with a real Minister, bible study classes, Do people get the holy ghost spirit.....Why do people have to escape from the Church of Scientology.....
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

:angry:
What a namby pamby, theetie weetie, panty waisted dilletante. It's her fault for not knowing what the Sea Org is all about ... that it is an organization of, by, and for tough sons of bitches. If you want to join the Sea Org, know that you are better of dead than incompetent. Obviously, it's not for everybody. We are out to turn little miss pattycakes into a dedicated Scientologist. And this pathetic little creature couldn't stand a little hazing to get into the most elite fraternity in the world. Fooey on her! If she can't stand a little bit of friendly hazing, how will she be able to confront all of the horiffic incidents on the whole track? Well, to heck with her, we sent her back to her mommy. We probably should have gotten her a lolly pop while we were at it, the little cry baby, couldn't stand up to an SRA or a good face ripping. Sheesh!

And as for the rest of you ... what a bunch of other-intentioned geeks, mainlining entheta over here on ESMB. You have even less of an excuse than SHE had. You are all ethics bait! Of course, it will go a lot easier on you if you upgrade your IAS status to Doofus Meritorious Maximus IMMEDIATELY if not sooner. With that done, we can then get a tech handling to see WHY you are on here and how many expensives it will take to salvage your case.

Pete

:angry: Reading your posts makes all the nasty, hurtful things I heard about Scientology true........Scientologists have no conscious, no god, no religion........it is a cult of an institution that believes in fraud, rape, human trafficking, child abuse, coercion and black mail.......All Scientologists buildings in Los Angeles County need to be demolished
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

:angry:

:angry: Reading your posts makes all the nasty, hurtful things I heard about Scientology true........Scientologists have no conscious, no god, no religion........it is a cult of an institution that believes in fraud, rape, human trafficking, child abuse, coercion and black mail.......All Scientologists buildings in Los Angeles County need to be demolished

You misunderstood his post. Perhaps it's because you don't frequent the forum or read his posts.

Pete wrote that as a Sea Org executive would say it. What we former members know to the typical response to such a report.

He was showing how Scientology expects Sea Org members to look at atrocities such as what happened to the girl. With no concern or human connection.

At least this is my take on it.

But your upset is certainly understandable, not knowing all that.

Best wishes,

Mary
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

^^^That. And GoNuclear is one of the more sarcastic / tongue in cheek posters on here. I understand the need to make those types of posts occasionally, because I do it too. I find that it helps me decompress. It doesn't mean that I am condoning the behavior of the SO members in this story or lack empathy for the victims of the Co$ in any way.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Apparently, I guess I am because I wrote it.

But I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Hey if you ever figure out what Terril's trying to say in general....let me know. No....on second thought....don't. :biggrin:
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

This story will air on Lateline, ABC Australia sometime next week. Stay tuned.

Anyone ready to video this? Zhent?
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Another sad. But I am glad the whistles are blowing around the world.

Soon the only place on earth for the cult to get "raw meat" will be Antarctica or Atlantis.

Scientology the cult where the Sun is always setting.

Well said, thanks for your input.
 
Watch Lateline tonight!

Tonight this story goes to air. It includes the rotten sleazy attempts by Co$ to derail the story.

:footbullet:

:biggrin:

That's Lateline, 10:35 pm Australian Eastern time on ABC.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Oh, thank you, Kooka! I will be watching! This should be good!
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Sadly I won't be able to stay up to watch it as I start work very early tomorrow:bigcry:

But I'm sure the local OSAspawn will be glued to it. :hysterical:

THAT thought alone makes me happypants:happydance:

Back to sleeping under desks at Dundas tonight, OSA?:roflmao:

Couldn't think of a more deserving reward for all your hard work on this story.:dieslaughing:
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

The appropriate authorities should be hatted on the Introspection Rundown and Lisa MacPherson's situation. Sounds like she may have been subjected to something like that.
Both the treating psychiatrist and the federal police were informed about the Introspection Rundown and Lisa McPherson.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Both the treating psychiatrist and the federal police were informed about the Introspection Rundown and Lisa McPherson.

Wow. They sure made an idiot out of their attorney. But mostly, apart from the obvious lies, how low to treat a young lady with a mental illness like that - especially when your organisation caused the misery in the first place. Can't wait till what goes around comes around. Thank you to all the brave people that spoke up on this poor girl's behalf, and the ABC for having the balls to run with it. You did good.
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

Some of you may remember this as the "April Fool's Joke" that wasn't, but the thread vanished. It was no joke.
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The thread could be resurrected now!
 
Re: Young girl imprisoned, beaten and abused in Sea Org Headquarter, Dundas, Australi

That lawyer looked like a deer in the headlights, denying categorically that "isolation" occurs. Oh geez ... it looked so bad. Well good! :biggrin:
That poor girl, being marched in to sign a statement, obviously not one she had written, if indeed she is in any shape to write one at all - after scientology was informed of the show. Gross! :grouch:

Thankyou Steve Cannane and ABC.
 
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