Ron Hubbard Jr. Penthouse interview: Penthouse: Your father was selling information to the Soviets?
Hubbard: Yes. That's where my father got the money to buy St. Hill Manor in East Grinstead, Sussex, which is the English headquarters of Scientology today.
Penthouse: What information did your father have to sell the Soviet government?
Hubbard: He didn't do any spying himself. What he normally did was allow these strange little people to go into the offices and into his home at odd hours of the night. He told me that he was allowing the KGB to go through our files, and that he was charging £40,000 for it. This was the money he used for the purchase of St. Hill Manor.
Penthouse: Do you know any specific information that the KGB got from your father that might have been harmful to security?
Hubbard: The plans for an infrared heat-seeking missile in the early fifties. They obtained the information by extensive auditing of the guy who was one of the head engineers. There were great infiltrations clear to this day. There has always been an inordinate interest on the part of Scientology in military and government personnel. There's no way for me to prove it sitting here, but I believe that the KGB trained East German agents who came via Denmark to London to the United States who were, supposedly, Scientologists. They made very good Scientologists. They were very well trained. end]
LRH hated communists! He infiltrated Parsons' world for the Feds. If Jr. was right LRH was double agent for U.S. No way would a former Naval Intel Officer involved with JPL Jet Propulsion Laboratory go undetected letting KGB have free access to his files. Couldn't happen!
"All war is deception." Sun Tzu
This is some information re. L. Ron Hubbard Jr., a.k.a. Nibs.
I suppose it's useful to post it since Xguardian is playing the usual games....
Penthouse: "Did he [Hubbard Sr.] encourage you to use drugs?"
Hubbard Jr.: "Well, he used them with me. He was a real night person. We used to sit around at night, sit around his office or home, get loaded up, and talk... He started out by mixing phenobarbital in my bubble gum, when I was ten years old. This was to induce deeper trances in order to practice the black magic..."
From L. Ron Hubbard Sr.'s 1946 'Affirmations':
"Your psychology is good. You worked to darken your own children. This failure with them [Ron Jr., and his younger sister Katherine] was only apparent. The evident lack of effectiveness was 'ordered'. The same psychology works perfectly on everyone else. You use it with great confidence...
"Darkness is a cloak you may don. Your guardian and your own courage protect you utterly in darkness. You control anything you meet in darkness for that is part of your universe...
"Your writing has a deep hypnotic effect on people and they are always pleased with what you write...
"Your psychology is true and wonderful. It hypnotizes people. It predicts their emotions, for you are their ruler."
As a non-sequitur comment, at the beginning of the first 'Philadelphia Doctorate Course' lecture of 1952: "...the prince of darkness. Who do you think I am?" [audience chuckles].
The first "Ron's Org" SP Declare I ever read was the one on L. Ron Hubbard Jr. (Nibs). It was in a notebook owned by the person who is currently the Senior C/S for Ron's Orgs in the USA:
"Sector Ethics Order:
"Ron De Wolfe, alias Nibs Hubbard, alias L. Ron Hubbard Junior
"...He has recently come under direct influence of the infamous suppressive implanter known as Xenu, subject of Ethics Order No. 1 (written in 1967 by Elron Elray)...
"Deputy Sector Commander"
The use of "alias" for dramatic effect is another echo of L. Ron Hubbard, whose (perceived) enemies were invariably communists, criminals, or sex perverts; for example, according to the founder of Scientology, his 2nd wife was a Russian spy, sent in to run a covert operation on Dianetics:
"Sara Komkovadamanov, alias Northrup..."
Good ol' Captain Bill. And to think his Ron's Orgs flying saucer cult is the number one FZ group. http://galac-patra.narod.ru/index.html Oh well.
As for Ron Jr., or Nibs, his comments can be found in that 'Penthouse' magazine interview, and a few TV interviews, a piece titled 'Philadelphia', and a tape called 'Nibs to the Field'. There are five pages of material, from Ron Jr., in the book, 'L. Ron Hubbard, Messiah or Madman?', and, incidentally, all the Nibs' material used in 'Madman?' was supported by others' testimony and by court's evidence.
There's a confusion re. the 'Penthouse' article, as stories told to Ron Jr., by his father, were presented as being believed by Ron Jr. Ron Jr. believed some of it, not all of it, and was uncertain about some things. That's one category: Things he was *told* by his father. His father *told* him (he was 17 in 1950) that he was selling secrets to the Russians, just as his father told Scientologists so many things. And, not unlike the ex-Scientologists who are still "sorting it out" and recovering, so did Ron Jr. attempt to do so.
Of course, Ron Jr. had the problem of having been Fair Gamed, by his father and Scientology, for most of his life. The two "buttons" that Scientology Inc. went after were "family, wife, children," and "money, jobs." Scientology Inc. was relentless.
As a result, he signed two retractions: one after the birth of his youngest son in the early 1970s - his son had downs syndrome and Nibs and his wife were faced with additional stresses and expenses - and one after a serious physical illness in the mid 1980s that resulted in his being hospitalized. He had no health insurance.
Ron Jr. was told many things by his father, but he also *witnessed* his father's behavior: his father throwing dinner plates against walls, his father drinking heavily, and his father using drugs; he witnessed his father's fascination with the writings of Aleister Crowley, and with the darkest aspects of the occult, witnessed his father's use of self-hypnosis with the 'Affirmations' - the 'Affirmations' beginning in the late 1930s. He also witnessed his father secretly hoarding cash, then telling creditors he had no money, and he witnessed the contempt with which his father regarded Scientologists, the Scientologists to whom his father had repeatedly lied.
All this, and more, has since been confirmed.
And then there are Ron Jr.'s opinions.
However, Ron Jr. was told so many tall tales by his father, that he spent the rest of his life trying to sort it out, and free himself from his father's manipulations. And he said so.
Over-all, Ron's Jr.'s information - the key points - have been confirmed by other sources. He spoke out before the Internet, when his mention of his father using drugs brought ridicule, and worse.
And he's the only Hubbard son or daughter who has had the courage to speak out publicly.