Marthy Rathbun is a Human Being like you and me
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Smurf
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Perhaps all the criticisms waged against him for being Marty's apologist has awaken some old engrams, or he's just out to show us who's in charge.
The Anabaptist Jacques
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Does he claim to be an OT.
Does he go by the Scientology definition of OT?
Does he believe that OTs are superior to us mere human beings?
I don't care which rat, Rathbun or Miscavige, wins that rat race.
The winner will just keep crushing and manipulating their followers. That's the trophy.
The Anabaptist Jacques
The Anabaptist Jacques
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"Marthy Rathbun is a Human Being like you and me"
And so is David Miscavige. So what is your point?
The Anabaptist Jacques
And so is David Miscavige. So what is your point?
The Anabaptist Jacques
Markus
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Marty once was a human being
Having a "RONBOT" father who is lying about the circumstances of my brother Uwes suffering and death in the Sea Org and after several attempts to really talk to my father in this matter and instead of getting answers to my questions he only tried to handle me.
Nearly the same with Marty - he is not able to see the evil in Hubbards teachings and he is not freeing people from Hubbards mindf..k. Not at all!! He is still Hubbards slave. His mind is enslaved.
This is why he is not able to listen or to discuss any critical topic like a normal human being. He wants to put ethics in from outside the church - by applying Hubbards Technology - what a complete nonsense
He wants to put ethics in on all of us and on you Mark Bunker.
I want to state here that you went into the trap too.
It is Hubbards Technology that causes this fanatical craziness of all this poor people who are caught in this system. That something like this is possible frightens me to death.
If I one day will see that there is respect on the other side - respect to listen instead of "handling" people or stop the communication if you dare to quote criminal statements of Hubbard - if I see this respect happening in Martys communication I will say yes there is this human being Marty again. It surely is there somewhere but right now Hubbard still is stronger and is controlling what Marty is doing. I'm looking forward to the day when he managed to free himself from this suppressive mind manipulation. That will be the day when he will communicate with me freely for the first time.
Some wise men were already able to see the trap of Hubbard and fomulated how it works:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=19232
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=19028
I can't understand that Mark Bunker is not able to see this.
Best
Markus
Having a "RONBOT" father who is lying about the circumstances of my brother Uwes suffering and death in the Sea Org and after several attempts to really talk to my father in this matter and instead of getting answers to my questions he only tried to handle me.
Nearly the same with Marty - he is not able to see the evil in Hubbards teachings and he is not freeing people from Hubbards mindf..k. Not at all!! He is still Hubbards slave. His mind is enslaved.
This is why he is not able to listen or to discuss any critical topic like a normal human being. He wants to put ethics in from outside the church - by applying Hubbards Technology - what a complete nonsense
He wants to put ethics in on all of us and on you Mark Bunker.
I want to state here that you went into the trap too.
It is Hubbards Technology that causes this fanatical craziness of all this poor people who are caught in this system. That something like this is possible frightens me to death.
If I one day will see that there is respect on the other side - respect to listen instead of "handling" people or stop the communication if you dare to quote criminal statements of Hubbard - if I see this respect happening in Martys communication I will say yes there is this human being Marty again. It surely is there somewhere but right now Hubbard still is stronger and is controlling what Marty is doing. I'm looking forward to the day when he managed to free himself from this suppressive mind manipulation. That will be the day when he will communicate with me freely for the first time.
Some wise men were already able to see the trap of Hubbard and fomulated how it works:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=19232
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=19028
I can't understand that Mark Bunker is not able to see this.
Best
Markus
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This is NOT OK !!!!
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What's he holding his pants open for?
Why is DM holding his pants open? Hoping someone throws a Hurricane down there to "cool things off"?
Note: The "Tropical Isle" Hurricane drink bar is directly in the background!!
Why is DM holding his pants open? Hoping someone throws a Hurricane down there to "cool things off"?
Note: The "Tropical Isle" Hurricane drink bar is directly in the background!!
Carmel
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In my books, people are not all on an equal footing with equal rights, because some have abused certain rights and therefore forfeited them.
Things change all the time. People who have gone south can change direction and go north, but the concept that we are all the same and deserve the same, etc, etc, is off the rails IMO.
I'd give the assholes on this earth the right to change their direction and do some good, but I wouldn't offer them the benefit of the doubt or the respect I'd give to others, and I don't buy that we don't have a right to be very down on bad behaviour or on people who specialise in bad behaviour, just because they are "people".
Some object to such harsh judgement. IMO though, without people seeing something as it is and calling it as it is (from whatever perspective), we'd all be in a very sorry state. People see different things and our judgements vary and change. All judgements tend to be based on some kind of bias, and some are unfair, but so be it.........Without judgement and the sharing of such, many would fall into traps which could be avoided.
In answer to title of this thread - Marty *is* a human being, but not like me and friends here. IMO, he lives by a completely different code, and it's one which I object to.
Things change all the time. People who have gone south can change direction and go north, but the concept that we are all the same and deserve the same, etc, etc, is off the rails IMO.
I'd give the assholes on this earth the right to change their direction and do some good, but I wouldn't offer them the benefit of the doubt or the respect I'd give to others, and I don't buy that we don't have a right to be very down on bad behaviour or on people who specialise in bad behaviour, just because they are "people".
Some object to such harsh judgement. IMO though, without people seeing something as it is and calling it as it is (from whatever perspective), we'd all be in a very sorry state. People see different things and our judgements vary and change. All judgements tend to be based on some kind of bias, and some are unfair, but so be it.........Without judgement and the sharing of such, many would fall into traps which could be avoided.
In answer to title of this thread - Marty *is* a human being, but not like me and friends here. IMO, he lives by a completely different code, and it's one which I object to.
Smurf
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Why don't you PM him and ask him. He'll comm with you. He responds to PMs on his YouTube channel. I don't have his email.
http://www.youtube.com/user/XENUTV
FrankBooth
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"Mr. Rathbun, sir--your e-meter back up cans have arrived..."
I take great offense to you shamelessly dragging the good name of PBR through the mud like this. Shame on you!
freethinker
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You have photos recent of the base inner santum or wherever it is of what is going on now?
Smurf
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Why? PBR tastes like piss.
Markus
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Well "Smurf" I can answer you this: Because I'm only human - I have a nice, lovely family a house with a huge garden as you might already know, a job which I love to do and each day unfotunately only has 24 hours. I answered to this thread and what I wrote came from my heart. I hate this Marty and Mike propaganda and each time I see them talking like for example lately on youtube in front of the Fort Harrison Hotel or like in the interviews in Australia
I must say I do not like this military type of being if you know what I mean Smurf and I still have the strong feeling that both of them are still dishonest. But I will try to reach Mark in the next days.
By the way - it was a great time with you in LA
Best
Markus
ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
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He should use some shit beer like Heineken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbxGgCY9PKw&feature=related
HelluvaHoax!
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When the voting begins for "OFFICIAL BEER OF ESMB" I would like to nominate Pilsner Urquell (served realllll cold)
ChuckNorrisCutsMyLawn
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It's a good thing that kid was playing basketball and not skateboarding when Marty was getting his drunk on, down on Bourbon St
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoATQ72XAnE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoATQ72XAnE
Thrak
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I shouldn't laugh at that but that was fuckin funny.
Why is DM holding his pants open? Hoping someone throws a Hurricane down there to "cool things off"?
Note: The "Tropical Isle" Hurricane drink bar is directly in the background!!
That's where he keeps the bank books and 'X Marks the Spot' maps. He's just making sure Marty didn't grab em.
Or, maybe Tommy's in there wiggling.
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