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Marty Rathbun raises his head, and starts squawking PART 2

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
[bcolor=#ccffff]Marty deleted a bunch of videos on his blog. We still can see videos up to "Part 10" and the next would be "Part 18". Seven videos missing from "Going Clear". Where are they? Why did Marty take them off?[/bcolor]​

Go to this link on YouTube:

Marty's Videos
. . . if you have the stomach for it, LOL. :hattip:

BTW, at my own expense, I've put all of Marty's videos on an encrypted USB drive and enclosed them in a portable titanium storage vault, which can withstand a direct hit from a bomb or explosive device. The vault is buried in my back yard -- and no one knows where that is -- so the videos are essentially now secured and protected for eternity.
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lotus

stubborn rebel sheep!
Another new video.

Sooooo...he posts like crazy for about 2 months in the summer, goes completely quiet, then starts up again in December.

Wonder how long it will go on for this time?
It has come to may attention that he requested a LOA to attend a chef-patissier course last fall :scratch:
 

This is NOT OK !!!!

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[bcolor=#ccffff]Marty deleted a bunch of videos on his blog. We still can see videos up to "Part 10" and the next would be "Part 18". Seven videos missing from "Going Clear". Where are they? Why did Marty take them off?[/bcolor]​

Go to this link on YouTube:

Marty's Videos
. . . if you have the stomach for it, LOL. :hattip:

BTW, at my own expense, I've put all of Marty's videos on an encrypted USB drive and enclosed them in a portable titanium storage vault, which can withstand a direct hit from a bomb or explosive device. The vault is buried in my back yard -- and no one knows where that is -- so the videos are essentially now secured and protected for eternity.
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You didn't mention charging the titanium vault with inert gas. Did you do that?

I have some gas you could use, but it ain't inert! :sparky:
 

Out Effix

Out Ethics Ex Ethics Officer
I believe the answer to what Marty Rathbun is doing lies in the history of Scientology.

Scientology pays off everyone in exchange for silence.

That is how they have gotten away with so much for so long.

I sure hope some high ranking officials somewhere stop taking the money from Scientology.

Whatever happened to the attorney that worked for Marty? I thought he was going after Marty / Monique for attorney fees. I have not seen or heard anything about it. What was his name? Was he paid off too?
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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OBVIOUS EXPLANATION FOR RATHBUN'S SUDDEN 2 NEW VIDEOS.

He went radio silent for a long time. Then, suddenly, out of nowhere (and for no apparent reason) he throws down two breathless new attack videos against the critics of Scientology.

WHY: Simple. Because Marty is on "retainer" to Miscavige in some way, shape or form. Perhaps his tether let's him wander far, but he can always be pulled back ("...and that day may never come." V. Corleone) and called upon to to perform a compensatory favor for the Don. Perhaps Rathbun's settlement keeps him "on call" for 20 years or more.

WHY NOW? Also simple. Because COB saw what he believed was a brilliant opportunity to turn the tide of the publics hate/fear of Scientology to Scientology's critics instead. That Deus Ex-Machina event was the Weinstein sexual predator "button" that has thrown entire careers and corporations into the trash heap overnight. Thinking that the COS could capitalize on positioning Scientology's enemies as "sexual predators" (like the disgraced/defunct former giants Harvey Weinstein, Senator Al Franken, Representative John Conyers, Kevin Spacey and scores of others...). Because the outcry against anyone who is merely ACCUSED is so deafening and lethal, COB decided to jump in quickly with a flurry of predator accusations against Scientology critics.

WHY RATHBUN: Because he is stupid, pliable, venal and expendable.

HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL It's a joke. It's worse than a joke, because a joke at least has the remote promise of producing a laugh. All this stuff proves is that Scientology produced brainwashed, mentally ill sadists who will attack anyone on command.

CURIOSITIES OF THE RECENT TWO VIDEOS: The tells. The incessant blinking, gulping, shifting eyes, contorted grins, et al. It is hard to imagine any other video testimony that is not so cringefully and obviously an amateurish actor with diminished mental capacity trying so desperately to lie his way to his next cash prize.

I just looked into who helped Rathbun to rehearse and polish his delivery for those videos. It was famed DC attorney Nathan Thurm.



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Jenyfurrr

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Marty did not differentiate between those who were nice to him, and those who were not. He burned everyone with equal bitterness and vengeance.

The frog and the scorpion - it is in his nature . . .

Lurker5 - I know I'm way late to this, but yep, I never felt safe posting being a never-in and truly struggling with the whole indie-movement. Then once I read some posts from Oracle, I was too scared to ever post there. But not the case with Tony & Mike's sites.

You expressed it well in that it felt you never knew what the reaction would be to ANYthing and depending on how Marty responded, his hard core followers would slam anyone not inline w/his intent or opinion, so I read and went, "Whoa!" Hubby & I had some peripheral involvement & friends/employers who were in, some who were out. It was not a safe place to post, even when I felt he'd said something that resonated. The whole thing is sad & disappointing as a whole!
 

Jenyfurrr

Patron
They look great.

Some stupid questions - where would she have gotten the money to set up a bakery store? They are not cheap, at all, to set up. How would she have obtained financing? Neither she nor Marty have jobs from what I know.

Where did she learn to bake commercially? this probably sounds like one of those "duh' questions but knocking out a family recipe for a bundt cake is majorly different from baking many different things commercially - it is why chefs and bakers do apprenticeships or work their way up. This is not something that you just start doing - well not unless you are doing something incredibly specialized - and even then it takes a LONG time to set these things up. Learning to bake well is a long process - my wife is a great baker and makes some great stuff but I doubt that she could sustain a commercial activity with it.

And back, once again - to costs. What is paying for the supplies, the professional grade ovens, the rent the advertizing?

My sister & sis-in-law both got really into cake-making shortly after having kids. My sister did my wedding cake & does bday cakes, but in CA outrageous cakes & baked creations are a dime a dozen. I could see Mosey doing this if she tended to be crafty (don't know anything about her personally, but until recent - last year or two - events had really respected her tenacity, then?....)

So I don't question the quality. Also, because Ingleside By the Bay looks to be a smaller town, I could see someone starting an out-of-home or small shop bakery like this (similar to my hometown in NorCal) but it still requires start-up costs. Interesting also that there's a FB page but no website I can find under the same business name.

Marty's Amazon store (which is what his URL... Wimoma.com) points to, sounds like his typical tldr blather... but yep, as much as I can explain away so many details (& don't have reason to) it's clear they received a cash infusion & seem likely trying to create a reason for recent $uccess & potential tax write-offs. Just steams me because they could've done this 2 years ago withOUT screwing over anyone or throwing good people under the bus! Also I know many people here went to bat for him for a time so he's that car crash or train track I wish I didn't have to admit to slowing down to watch, but I do because it's so... odd & nonsensicle (esp within the amazing ex community!!!).

BTW - missed you all, but I got sick then the whole family did, then I did again, so I was lurking here and posting at Tony's & Mike's blogs during the few quiet moments before the little ones woke up.

Bummed that this subject was the one that got me active again, but I miss my ESMB friends & this was where I landed!
 

Jenyfurrr

Patron
I truly believed in Marty Rathbun back in the day.
I thought his whistleblowing was outstanding.
When he moved to near San Antonio, I sent him this Thomas Kinkade called "Garden of Promise" as housewarming gift.
I thought it symbolized a future of promise...who knows what would happen walking through those gates in the mist.
Recently this rare sold out image sold for $3500.


And I looked back at how Rathbun trashed me for 2 days solid on his blog and on Facebook for days...Of course he kept this Kinkade gift and all the generous cash donations....

So I have concluded that I am generous to a fault and sometimes beyond stupid. Oh well.

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Aw Karen,
You were (and are) NOT stupid! You're a kind and generous person with an incredible heart that gives people the benefit of the doubt. It's people like you that plant seeds in the hearts of those, who may be redeemable, that will break through their self deception at some point. And in those where that doesn't happen, other people see it and learn, bridges are burnt and others are saved being burnt by the person because of the kindness of someone like you! Interesting that he's gone pretty silent on you since then.

He'd have gone nowhere if not for your support and though what he's done recently isn't deserving at all EVER of your kindness, MANY people were helped by his blog and the activities you helped him to do back then. So despite him clearly having broken character, STILL people were helped, recovered and found freedom thanks to YOUR efforts and support of Marty for a time!

Hugs!
 

pkatz

Patron with Honors
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OBVIOUS EXPLANATION FOR RATHBUN'S SUDDEN 2 NEW VIDEOS.

He went radio silent for a long time. Then, suddenly, out of nowhere (and for no apparent reason) he throws down two breathless new attack videos against the critics of Scientology.

WHY: Simple. Because Marty is on "retainer" to Miscavige in some way, shape or form. Perhaps his tether let's him wander far, but he can always be pulled back ("...and that day may never come." V. Corleone) and called upon to to perform a compensatory favor for the Don. Perhaps Rathbun's settlement keeps him "on call" for 20 years or more.

WHY NOW? Also simple. Because COB saw what he believed was a brilliant opportunity to turn the tide of the publics hate/fear of Scientology to Scientology's critics instead. That Deus Ex-Machina event was the Weinstein sexual predator "button" that has thrown entire careers and corporations into the trash heap overnight. Thinking that the COS could capitalize on positioning Scientology's enemies as "sexual predators" (like the disgraced/defunct former giants Harvey Weinstein, Senator Al Franken, Representative John Conyers, Kevin Spacey and scores of others...). Because the outcry against anyone who is merely ACCUSED is so deafening and lethal, COB decided to jump in quickly with a flurry of predator accusations against Scientology critics.

WHY RATHBUN: Because he is stupid, pliable, venal and expendable.

HOW EFFECTIVE IS IT? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL It's a joke. It's worse than a joke, because a joke at least has the remote promise of producing a laugh. All this stuff proves is that Scientology produced brainwashed, mentally ill sadists who will attack anyone on command.

CURIOSITIES OF THE RECENT TWO VIDEOS: The tells. The incessant blinking, gulping, shifting eyes, contorted grins, et al. It is hard to imagine any other video testimony that is not so cringefully and obviously an amateurish actor with diminished mental capacity trying so desperately to lie his way to his next cash prize.

I just looked into who helped Rathbun to rehearse and polish his delivery for those videos. It was famed DC attorney Nathan Thurm.



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Martin Short so effin funny.
 

Churchill

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Let Marty Rathbun’s blog, including the comments of his acolytes stand as an object lesson of the permanent loss of rational thought and sanity that is the ultimate and true price extracted by Scientology from it’s adherents.
Nowhere is the utter madness that IS the end product of Scientology more evident.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Let Marty Rathbun’s blog, including the comments of his acolytes stand as an object lesson of the permanent loss of rational thought and sanity that is the ultimate and true price extracted by Scientology from it’s adherents.

Nowhere is the utter madness that IS the end product of Scientology more evident.

That sums it up with stunning clarity!

Now, Scientology will certainly respond with something wondrously & compelling clever--that they 'feel good about', like:


"Oh my goodness no! Rathbun is a defrocked bitter apostate that we kicked out of our ethical church because he was the one doing all the bad things that people unfairly accuse
us of doing. Marty never made it to Clear or OT. After all, HE is the one claimed to have attained those supernatural states, we never accepted or believed it. I mean, My God--He lied to the examiner and the CS! We only gave him an OT VII completion certificate as part of a good-roads-and-fair-weather handling of an insane warlike SP. Those certificates are obviously not part of our religious beliefs--but (being humanitarians and the most ethical beings on the planet) we are always willing to do whatever we can to create a planet without Insanity and War--on this planet!"


SCIENTOLOGISTS: If they don't punctuate each communication with "on this planet", then they are not Scientologists. . . on this planet.

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uncover

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Hoaxie, tell me please: what does this mean ?:
SCIENTOLOGISTS: If they don't punctuate each communication with "on this planet", then they are not Scientologists. . . on this planet.

Your post - punctuated with "on this planet" - Is this now a confession ? secretely OSA and so ? :cool:
 
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This is NOT OK !!!!

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ON THIS PLANET is just a temporary condition.

After they Clear this mudball, the SO is headed to Target 2 where they will join Ron to embark on GAL - AX - SEE clearing and then on to THIS SECTOR OF THE UNIVERSE clearing and then......... Ron's a little vague about what happens after that.
 
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Gib

Crusader
On Martys latest post:

https://markrathbun.blog/2017/12/17/leah-remini-and-mike-rinder/#comments

Alanzo makes a comment to Don:

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Actually, Don, the overwhelming majority of Scientologists never harmed or abused anyone, and never would. They were not in the Sea Org, and they especially were not at Int Base.

But the idea that having been a Scientologist makes you some kind of a criminal with a leprous social disease is simply not true for the overwhelming majority of those who ever got themselves involved in Scientology.

Anti-Scientology is being run right now by the very people who were the most abusive people in Scientology. It’s a pretty bizarre situation, but you can tell because the hysteria from anti-Scientologists is at about the same fever pitch as the hysteria around Scientology when these people were running things from the Sea Org and Int Base.

Too few of them have even stopped to take a breath and spotted that they are using the same Sea Org mentality as anti-Scientologists as when they were fanatical Sea Org members.

Alanzo"

Here's my rebuttal since I do not wish to post on Alanzo blog nor Marty blog, both are sort of rhetoric Junto Clubs, in their own right to free speech.

Anyways, Alanzo's first sentence:

"Actually, Don, the overwhelming majority of Scientologists never harmed or abused anyone, and never would. They were not in the Sea Org, and they especially were not at Int Base."

My reply, yes that is true per se, but they were taught how to persuade people.

Alanzo second second sentence:

"But the idea that having been a Scientologist makes you some kind of a criminal with a leprous social disease is simply not true for the overwhelming majority of those who ever got themselves involved in Scientology."

My answer, I don't think the idea of having been a scientologist is what is being communicated in the blogs, what is is actually being communicated is that Dianetics and Scientology are criminal organizations and it's front groups because those organizations are supposed to produce a "clear" and then "OT", per it's own so called HCOB's & HCOPL's.

Alanzo third paragraph:

"Anti-Scientology is being run right now by the very people who were the most abusive people in Scientology. It’s a pretty bizarre situation, but you can tell because the hysteria from anti-Scientologists is at about the same fever pitch as the hysteria around Scientology when these people were running things from the Sea Org and Int Base."

My answer, I don't think anti-scientology is being run by anybody, in fact it's being run by all those that speak their minds regarding dianetics and scientology, what is occurring is that exmembers are telling their stories of having been involved, and the general public are being to understand because of exmembers telling their stories of getting involved.

Alanzo forth paragraph:

"Too few of them have even stopped to take a breath and spotted that they are using the same Sea Org mentality as anti-Scientologists as when they were fanatical Sea Org members."

My answer:

Why on earth would Alanzo state such? And I don't have a clue, but

Of course they are using the same techniques that Hubbard used to get one in involved in Dianetics and Scientoloy. That's rhetoric, the art of persuasion, and it's 3 means of logos, pathos, ethos.

Hopefully, as logic dictates, one will ask the question where are the "clears" and where are the "OT's"?

The world really needs Hubbard's HCO PL's and HCOB's and recorded lectures to survive, don't you think Alanzo?
 
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