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whatever said:
I read the issues in 89, so my mind is rusty on it. Probably shouldn't have even mentioned it. Oh well, what I do remember is you run around a stationary object (such as a pole), keeping your attention on the pole. The purpose of running around it is to suck out negative energy and put it into the pole. Something like that. It is supposed to free up attention units. The EP I saw was like "What the ..... What does that have to do with anything??" Something about communication.

I think its all day, not 5 hours per day. It's a full time rundown, until you are Ep'ed. I could be wrong on that though.
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This program was piloted many, many years ago. If I recall correctly, the pilot started around 1983. That was 24 years ago.

I know there were technical problems with it at the time that sent it "back to the drawing board". One problem I am aware of is similar to the problem on LOC; staff would complete it, then want to route out of the Sea Org.

My guess is that the program went through a number of changes since you did it. It may still not be ready for release. I have heard that one of the reasons, if not the reason, that Superpower hasn't been released is technical issues with the rundown(s) themselves.

whatever said:
Sorry I dont remember more. My memory can likely be jogged though.
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"Jogged"?

:lol:

("Running Program"? "Jogged?" Get it?)
 
You can buy a lollicolumn or steel pipe and 2 bags of cement at
Home Depot and put one in your backyard.

Why isn't this the way that would be most Scientological?

it would be great if Scientologists starting doing this though.:)
 
Running Program

I remember reading those references in Pilot form when I was on the RPF. We had one guy on the program and I got picked as the running IC. My runee(?), PC(?)eventually kept running right off the RPF:ohmy:
 
Dear Whatever,

I am very sorry to hear of those troubles you had with the medical cycles while being punished at the same time. There really is no place for the female role in the Sea Org anymore unless it is in a man's uniform. There were no extra provisions for the concerns of women to be addressed. You could have died with the improper care you received. I am glad you didn't.
 
TR 3, which direction?

OK, anyone know which direction you are supposed to move/run? I would not want to wind myself the wrong way. The propeller on my beanie might cut into my brain.
 
OHTEEATE said:
OK, anyone know which direction you are supposed to move/run? I would not want to wind myself the wrong way. The propeller on my beanie might cut into my brain.
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Just hold on to the pole and don't let go.You might go crashing through the
windows due to the low quality of the glass the glaziers installed.:dance2:

:dizzy:


say a prayer and hope that propeller kicks in and safely lands you on
the roof.


Whatever,sorry .I will keep my comments out of your post.I just couldn't resist with the
pole.I don't want you to think I'm making light of your story.
 
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Hardy har har. Nah, none of it bothers me. (jogging memory - that's cute)

I tend to lean towards counterclockwise on the running. I am not for sure though.
 
Don't you just love Google Earth? I'll bet the I/C of CST Vault security doesn't love it so much. Petrolia, Trementina, Crestline, Creston all available to check out. Tsk Tsk. Know any others?
 
OHTEEATE said:
Don't you just love Google Earth? I'll bet the I/C of CST Vault security doesn't love it so much. Petrolia, Trementina, Crestline, Creston all available to check out. Tsk Tsk. Know any others?
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Ever since the reports of 'Gold' being depopulated from 800 or so down to around 300 (200?) I've suspected that the increasing exposure has become a thorn of paranoia to 'management', which still 'postulates' the super sekrit nature of the 'base'.

Can you imagine Davey hiding under his bed, assuming he even shows up any more :)

Which is why I strongly suspect that there are *other* hidey-holes already in use or, at least, being prepared.

Paraguay anyone?

Zinj
 
OHTEEATE said:
OK, anyone know which direction you are supposed to move/run? I would not want to wind myself the wrong way. The propeller on my beanie might cut into my brain.
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I seem to vaguely remember that you run in one direction, then switch to running the opposite way.

Does that sound right?

And, like I said, the rundown has probably gone through a number of permutations over 24 years. It's probably way different now than when it was being piloted in the early 80s.
 
More reflections

I remembered in Sept 91, right after the amnesty, a few of us were put together to help put together Cine Hat packs. These were training materials/courses for the cine (Gold shoot crew) to do. At the time, the shoot crew were on the Ship doing filming. They wanted all of the packs compiled before they returned, as it was going to be some sort of gift (some gift, I am sure they were all ordered to do it, stay up late to complete, tight TM's etc, after we were done).

Anyways, this group of about 20 of us stayed up day and night compiling the materials. They had all of the LRH references, plus they had the instruction manuals for every single piece of equiptment that they used. We had to blow them up so they were all on lgal sized paper (instruction booklets come in all shapes and sizes and we copied and altered them until they were the right size). I personally spent a week straight without sleep on this. We were not given much time, as our time frame (TM) was tight.

I do remember one time they told us we could go to sleep for 4 hours, then we had to return. I internally laughed. I knew everyone would be late and get in alot of trouble for that. So instead, I went to visit my brother. He gave me a bike that day, and I rode around for a few hours getting some space (which was awesome cause I went straight from the RPF to this full time non stop project and needed the space) and then went right back to work.

After we finished the project, the crew acted happy and thanked us, but you could see them internally rolling their eyes, knowing another TM was going to come out of it. So sad. I kinda felt sorry for them.

I hated those tight TM study things. I probably have a couple more to remember too.

(Note for me: the Div summaries psychosis)
 
PM's (not PMS, ok?)

Hey guys, I just wanted to drop a note here to apologize for any PM's I may not have responded to. See, the thing is, though I have told alot about myself in my story, and I could easily be tracked down, still, I am not comfortable with questions that lead to who I am, and so I have not found responses for those PM's that I am comfortable with. Since there have been a number of them, I just figured I'd be able to tack and note here and be forgiven. (sorry guys, not yet, thats all)

Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all (I figure if I say things like that, maybe someday they will come true...:eyeroll: )
 
whatever said:
Hey guys, I just wanted to drop a note here to apologize for any PM's I may not have responded to. See, the thing is, though I have told alot about myself in my story, and I could easily be tracked down, still, I am not comfortable with questions that lead to who I am, and so I have not found responses for those PM's that I am comfortable with. Since there have been a number of them, I just figured I'd be able to tack and note here and be forgiven. (sorry guys, not yet, thats all)

Peace on Earth and Goodwill to all (I figure if I say things like that, maybe someday they will come true...:eyeroll: )
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Take your time. What you Mate and Alanzo have been giving us is valuable for all, especially when taken together, and, taken together with all the other stories in 'revealing' Scientology in Action.

I'm sure there are lots of people who would like to know who you are, whether out of idle curiosity or because they think they might know you, and, would, if given the chance, pump you dry :)

You're probably right about the 'Church' knowing who you are by now, thanks to how specific you *have* been, but, prime is that you're feeling comfortable about telling your story.

Thanks a lot.

Zinj
 
Whatever,

Did they ever tell you what your freeloader debt would be? Just curious. I would wager it's somewhere around $1 million.

Also, the fact that you can sit there and tell your story and include all the gory details is a testament to the strength of character you have. It's truly heartbreaking to read. I'm very happy you're ok now, and you have your life back.

Thank you for telling your story.

mr_bad
 
Mr Bad - they tols me my FL bill would be around 150,000 USD. They still hav not been able to give me an accurate figure. And one of the crappy things about it is alot of courses done more than once, and I have to pay for every time I did it (including the certainty courses and everything). I must have done metering like 5 times. Crazy. All because THEY kept changing the tech and the checksheets. It's BS. (Excuse me, cause I am still somewhat of a lady, but with people like that, why should I be polite?)

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Div summaries: (don't remember the date, but it was during the LA riots).

When the Divisional Summaries came out - I am guessing early - mid 90's, and the CC Basic Hat, I had to get all of the staff through both of them. And everyone was on a different schedule. And I had a mission up my rear trying to get everyone through. It was hell. I was essentially running a courseroom 24 hours a day for a while there. And this f*cking missionare (scuse me) named Geri Tiveron was a b*itch. She used to scream at me at the top of her lungs while I was supping the courseroom, disturbing all of the students on course, because one person didnt show up and I did not get them (though I was already suping 50 others, when LRH says 30 per sup), and I could not leave the courseroom to get them.

Finally one day after her face rip I took off. I was so pissed off, working so hard, only to get constantly creamed. I kept thinking why the heck I dedicated myself to that? I dont mind helping out, but to treat me like that?
F off is what I say.

I went to visit my brother, who lived nearby. He let me stay over the night and I went into the org the next day and got taken off post. Knowing the CO would not be able to count his stats unless I was on post, I went back on post (only cause at that time I respected him).

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RIght in the middle of all that, the LA riots broke out. I think the evolution had just about wrapped up, only a few left, so I was no longer supping 24 hours a day. I was just getting ready to walk 3 miles home (the walk was always voluntary and refreshing) and we were stopped by security and told about the riots. So we were supposed to get a ride home. But they needed people to help on security watch. So I decided to help out. I was given a radio and posted up on the roof to watch the boundaries. It was kinda cool because the rioters were in packs and they would start fires everywhere they went. And so you could see where they were travelling because of the line of fires they would start (mostly buildings, but also they put cars on fire).

The whole city was really out of control. Vandalism all over the place. Actually someone did manage to throw a molotov cocktail onto the property - where the paking lot is now. At the time, it was under construction and so was mostly a dirt pit with tractors and so forth.

I remember one time two of the guys downstairs scared the crap out of each other. One's radio handle was "Rodney", the other was "King". They got a kick out of that. They heard a noise down where the tractors were. They asked for radio silence as they snuck up on the noise. It was really tense as they were doing this. It ended up being the machinery cooling off. It makes loud clicking noises as it cools off. That was pretty funny.

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Despite working all day, I didnt mind doing the night watches, cause it was like a buncha friends hanging out. I remember the police mentioned that the riots would be over on the first of the month (they had already locked down the city and miltary had taken over, including tanks going down Hollywood Blvd - it got that bad). We were wondering how they knew when it would be over - because the people rioting would be in line to pick up welfare checks . That is how they knew. All the rioters were on welfare! It was funny at the time, ok?

Anyways, trying to keep you all entertained while I remember some things that happened...
 
LA riots

Your experience sounds similar to what we were doing at the HGB we surrounded the building and hung out for a while. It was weird seeing people go down the street with stolen loot and other people video taping the riots as if it was a LA tourist attraction!:lol: Were you there all night?
 
Savanna Bannana said:
Your experience sounds similar to what we were doing at the HGB we surrounded the building and hung out for a while. It was weird seeing people go down the street with stolen loot and other people video taping the riots as if it was a LA tourist attraction!:lol: Were you there all night?
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I remember that night out there surrounding the HGB. With the rioters coming towards us along Hollywood Blvd and we were armed with...

A fire hose! If I remember it right, the idea was that our TR-0 and innate goodness (and that death-dealing fire hose) would be enough to hold off the rampaging mob.

We were "protecting" the local businesses on that block too. Except for the sex shop next door, which we left wide open!

Fortunately the mob stopped a hundred yards away. Probably terrified of our TRs and spiritual powers. :coolwink:

Paul
 
Ha ha . I remember hearing about the HGB thing. It ended up on the news. My grandmother called (she is a WOG) to make sure that we were ok (and not in that HGB thing, cause she thought those guys were nuts doing that).

Yes, I was staying up all night. But it did not go on long, I dont think they lasted more than a week or so, if I remember right.
 
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