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OSA Defector Comes Out of Hiding

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by Watchful Navigator, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. TG1

    TG1 Angelic Poster

    Scientology sells and reinforces the opposite point of view. Scientology sells "key outs," floating needles and the belief that if you can imagine it you don't have to do another fucking thing about it.

  2. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    Drug dealers sell short-term euphoria as well. Long-run, I'm not sure which one is less damaging to your life.
  3. SilentNoMore

    SilentNoMore Patron

    I go with Scientology while the drugs are damaging in and of themselves, but you know what the dealers don't generally brainwash you into buying them.
  4. AnonyMary

    AnonyMary Formerly Fooled - Finally Free

    Re: The Lis McPherson Case

    I registered and looked up how she became Board Certified. See below.

    Physician Certification
    Janis Kaye Johnson-Fitzgerald


    Location ( First city and state listed is the last known location )
    Phoenix, AZ (United States)
    Mesquite, NV (United States)
    Tucson, AZ (United States)
    Tucson, AZ (United States)

    Certification ( For a definition of a specialty or subspecialtyclick here )
    American Board of Anesthesiology
    Anesthesiology - General (General indicates Primary Certificate)

    ABMS Maintenance of Certification StarMeeting Maintenance of Certification (MOC) Requirements
    American Board of Anesthesiology (Learn more about Meeting Board's MOC Requirements )
    Anesthesiology Not Required More information

    For some ABMS Member Boards, physicians who achieved Board Certification before those Boards established their MOC programs are not required to participate in MOC. To obtain information regarding whether a specific physician is required to participate in MOC please contact the pertinent ABMS Member Board

    Important notice: Reports provided by this service are not accepted by The Joint Commission, NCQA or URAC to verify physician credentials because no dates are supplied.

    In Michigan, where she began according to this document she was registered in MI until it expired in 1994.
    Verify a License/Registration
    Name and Address
    Address : Tucson, AZ 85718
    Profession and License/Registration Information
    Profession : Medicine Type : Medical Doctor
    Permanent ID # Status Issue Date Expiration Date
    4301047930 Lapsed 09/17/1984 01/31/1994
    Complaints and Disciplinary Action
    Open Formal Complaints : None
    Disciplinary Action : None
    Document Type Complaint Number Document Year
    No Images Found for record

    As well
  5. Last edited: Dec 8, 2013
  6. Ted

    Ted Gold Meritorious Patron

    Re: The Lisa McPherson Case

    I used to be young and naive thinking that Truth was all that mattered.

    Scientology culture disabused me of that idea. Then I learned that people lie while practicing CYA (Cover Your Ass).

    You can have clean hands. You can lead an exemplary life. If NSA or some other agency or authority has nothing on you, they can just make shit up, and sell it to the attack dogs who then feel justified in their jobs.
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2013
  7. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    and then there is 76 trillion yeas of track to run out - and $urely $omething Can Be Done About It...:whistling:K$W - Keep Scam make$ a lot of $$$$
  8. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    Don't forget us SP's...:wink2:
  9. Knows

    Knows Gold Meritorious Patron

    One of the hundreds of holes that were poked through my bubble whilst being a public in Scientology - was a woman I met, she had paid for her entire Bridge and was OTVIII. She was rather goofy, clothes sort of smelled. She was ignored by staff. She was old, but a nice lady. There was absolutely no admiration or care that emanated from the "terminals" that worked at the Org - towards her. I thought if one paid for their bridge - not put it on credit cards and refinanced house etc...which is what Scientology LOVES - it makes the person weak - that would be a good thing. But getting up the Bridge is just a "circuit" in Scientology. The real product is for Scientology to make money...lots of money...and then NEVER spend it!! Get people to work for free!! Keep everyone in a constant state of confusion and not allow anyone to complain...move people around, re-package L Ron Hubbards tech and re-sell it over and over.
  10. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on

    Well, Tory, Mr. Rathbun knows the answers to those questions.

    He's the one that gave the order to "Lose it!" regarding the famously missing pages. He knows all the details because he lived that case.

    He might not answer me, but I am guessing he wouldn't ignore your question if you posted it.

    He has no reason to keep the church's secrets any more so why don't we ask him?
  11. Negligent homicide with criminal intent = MURDER!


    "How do jurisdictions normally classify negligent murder?

    Should the negligent actions of an individual result in the death of another, then most jurisdictions will find grounds for criminal liability. Negligent homicide is typically classified as involuntary manslaughter, due to the implied lack of malice and intent. Should the prosecutor or investigators discover malice and/or intent, then the mens rea of the accused will be upgraded from “negligent” to “knowingly” or “purposely” seeking the death of the victim. As mentioned above, certain violations of other safety laws, such as failure to obtain proper permits or licenses will cause charges to be upgraded in severity."

    :no: :grouch:
  12. Lermanet_com

    Lermanet_com Gold Meritorious Patron

    Tory, please see THIS post


    David Miscavige Killed Lisa McPherson
    (For those who hadn't already seen it, the above was Marty's statement as of April, 2012.)

    Then we have his video statements in the above link to the Truth Rundown interviews (scroll down to 'The Lisa McPherson Case).

    (Why do I have in the back of my mind that Marty went out to Florida within the last couple years, to 'tell all' to the authorities there? - don't remember, but I remember him saying it was at personal risk because he could've been implicated - but cancel all that if I'm just imagining...)

    (Another note - Angie Blankenship was named as the relay person reporting directly to David Miscavige from Flag Land Base during the Lisa McPherson 'handling'. She recently accepted a 'huge' payoff while leaving Int Base to have a child in the 'field' - I am proud to say that my co-audit twin was the last person she 'failed to handle' in the Dallas Org [DM was obsessed with Dallas - we really pissed him off] and that he made her think twice about how evil she was being - she 'blew' and got pregnant right after that, then apparently went back in to 'route out properly'... SHE KNOWS!!! what really happened to Lisa - a re-opened investigation should not neglect to have her subpoenaed front and center)

    Anyway, I would certainly hope that there is more to come in revealing the full truth about the killing of Lisa.
  14. Re: Lisa McPherson Dead for How Long?

    Thank you Arnie

    absolutely blows the 'shore-story' that 'she died on the way to the hospital.'

    Note that Dr. Minkoff was reportedly screaming mad that she was brought to him in such a condition.
  15. Enthetan

    Enthetan Master of Disaster

    There's also the concept of murder due to "depraved indifference":

    To constitute depraved indifference, the defendant's conduct must be 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so lacking in regard for the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes a crime. Depraved indifference focuses on the risk created by the defendant’s conduct, not the injuries actually resulting.
    "to bring defendant’s conduct within the murder statute, the People were required to establish also that defendant’s act was imminently dangerous and presented a very high risk of death to others and that it was committed under circumstances which evidenced a wanton indifference to human life or a depravity of mind. . . . . The crime differs from intentional murder in that it results not from a specific, conscious intent to cause death, but from an indifference to or disregard of the risks attending defendant’s conduct." 60 NY2d at 274.

    Does the evidence show that Lisa was held against her will, under conditions where she was not given sufficient food, water, and care to preserve her life? It is my opinion that it does.
  16. La La Lou Lou

    La La Lou Lou Crusader

    If there was well documented evidence showing how this lady was killed by incompetent carers in a care home some one would have been prosecuted.

    The fact that no one is breaking rocks in a chain gang is suspicious.

    I understood it to be normal practice to do one of a long list of dodgy practices that include lying, drilling the cover story, honey traps, bribery and blackmail. I'm sure nothing untoward like that happened in this case.
  17. Magoo

    Magoo Gold Meritorious Patron

    When I was at Flag, on OT 7 for 7 years....part of the time there was this
    quite elderly man on OT 7 too. His wife would wait for him out in the lobby. Most people ignored him.
    So one day it was break time....and I decided to go say "hi" and "get in comm" as we used to say. (talk with him).

    I asked: "So how are ya doin'? "

    He: With a cigarette hanging out of the side of his mouth, and sort of
    twinkle in his eye, smiled and said: "Well, let's just say: You can't teach an old dog
    new tricks"


    That was THE most "real" statement I had heard in
    7 years! Later I found him in the elevator with his suitcase tied to his wrist with
    a real he was leaving. What a character!

    Thank the Net, the many wonderful peeps who have helped expose this insidious organization over
    the years, and now? Thanks OSA and David_the wimpass_chickenshit Miscavige who both have done
    more to SHOW the world why we left than we ever could explain. Oh yeah...and thanks Tommy Cruise,
    and Kirsty, too: you both have done sterling jobs of SHOWING WHY ***NOT** to join $cientology. :yes::omg:

  18. Churchill

    Churchill Gold Meritorious Patron

    What is most damning about the death of Lisa is that we are left to speculate about it

    while there are Scientologists who

    know the circumstances of her death,

    who witnessed her suffering,

    who heard her screams

    become whimpers.

    They have an absolute moral duty to step forward.

    This conspiracy of silence MUST END.
  19. Magoo

    Magoo Gold Meritorious Patron


    This is not just re Lisa....but for the TONS of sekrets people know....

    Please share the FACTS, your personal experiences. What people did and said
    that most peeps do not know. No, it has NOT all been told (as many people think).
    If you have not added your piece to the puzzle, please realize how vital each piece is, no
    matter how big or small. It ALL Matters! :flowers2:

    That's the only way C of $ is going to really be exposed.

    Happy Holidays! :cheers: