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Best regards,

G.

Gary F. York

Gary York sounds like a real suspicious nom de plume

Gary Cooper played Sgt. York in the flickers. I find the coincidence a little overbearing!

Who are you really? and why do you keep following us around the planet?

CC, St. Jo, and now here? I bet you're even doing surveillance on Tony LaRussa from where you sit.

I'm giving your contact information to Detective Joe Friday, he'll get to the bottom of this.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4RIBhQIkII
 
from the Godfather

I am about ready to wrap up what I have to say on a number of issues scientological.

Standby. :happydance:

(Sonny opens a package to find two fish wrapped in Luca's bulletproof vest)

Sonny: What the hell is this?

Pete Clemenza: It's a Sicilian message. It means Luca Brasi sleeps with the fishes.
 

lkwdblds

Crusader
Memorial Edition - A fictional post from November 2009

Gary York has inspired me to write about the old CCLA the way I was doing in October and November 2009. I am going to mock up a typical day at the Celebrity Centre in L.A. in 1972.

Return with me now to a typical post I would write last October..........
A typical day at CCLA circa Summer of 1972 - Fictional but based on fact.


I wake up about 7:00 AM in my apartment, shared with my Brother, also on staff and take a shower, shave and put on a white shirt and some dark slacks and walk three blocks over to the staff house on the northwest corner of 9th & Lake. I may buy an L.A. Times on the way over to check the sports scores. I arrive at the staff house for 7:30 muster. Muster is led by Shareen Stuart who first calls roll and then leads us in calisthenics. About 35-40 staff show up. The calisthenics are mild and everyone is young so they go fast.

Qual Sec Sam Loria then leads us in a Chinese School of the Org Board. His opening line is always, "Say good morning to the Org Board!" He has a smile on his face as he says this and after we all do it loudly and in unison, he gives the next command, "Have the Org Board say good morning to you!" He then goes through each department perhaps one day focusing on the awareness characteristics perhaps on the next day focusing on something else. We then break for breakfast at about 7:45 AM. There are a couple of vats of scrambled eggs, a couple of vats of crisp bacon, and stacks and stacks of toast on serving plates along with sticks of margarine. Vats of hot coffee have been brewed and are awaiting us as are cartons of orange juice made from concentrate. There is also a large array of granolas and pitchers of milk, Alta Dena brand at that, a premium brand of milk.

Next we report to our posts, mine being in Treasury in the basement of the Lake St. house, near the galley.

Smiling, Kitty Georgius the Treasury Sec is there waiting for us, as is DIr of RAM, Frances Pavlides, and my Purchasing Officer, Adelle Vonnie. Our Cashier, Mark Ambrose, refuses to come to muster and is given a pass by Kitty and the execs because he stats are among the highest in the world.

Just as roll call starts to be called, Kenny and Kathy Wasserman, who live only about 12 feet from Treasury and are separated from us by only a blanket, wake up and start having some sex, sort of a morning quickie befoe they go on post. They turn on a recording of Elton John's Rocket Man and the groans and grunts start, just 12 feet away from us and make it difficult for Kitty to call roll but she makes it through while they are still going strong. Kitty gives us a pep talk and somewhere during that pep talk, the Wasserman's reach their climaxes, one right after the other. As Kitty's pep talk goes on, Ken Wasserman emerges from behind the hanging blanket and heads out to his post with a friendly "Hi guys" addressed to us all. About 5 minutes later, Kathy emerges, all dressed and we all say hi to her too.

I head off to study where I am studying the Director of Disbursements full hat in the hatting college run by the super able and ethical Carole Ferguson. About 35 to 40 staff are studying along with me. I am an F/Ning student and the time goes quickly and 12:00 Noon arrives quickly and I head back to the Lake St. house for lunch down in the galley in the basement. I sit at a table with this attractive red headed girl, Elena Walbroek who invitied me to sit at her mess table when I first joined staff. Dick Hubbard is also at our table. Those are the only ones I remember but there were maybe about 5 regulars. Henry Baumgard would often join our group. The food was good, always a salad and then a main dish and a starch such as potatoes of one type or another. There was plenty of bread and margarine and large quantities of Alta Dena milk and plenty of orange juice and also fruit punch. The dishes were taken away and there was always a small dessert such as a pudding or a piece of cake. VOTING ON THE MEAL We had to vote on each meal, with scores ranging from inedible all the way to incredible with votes going for both the food itself and for the service.

After lunch it was off to post. My desk was in the basement at Lake St. just a few yards from the mess hall. I would say hi to Kitty, Frances and Adele and start in on my in basket. I would work diligently on my post duties from 1 to 6 pm. I knew the hat cold and was very good at it. Special days were Thursday morning where Bob Mithoff from Div 6 would come over with all the FSM checks to be written and the two of us would work on those together for from 90 to 120 minutes. We wrote around 35 FSM checks a week. They would range from $25 bucks to maybe $400. Bobby Mithoff had a sick joke which he would always say, "Daniel Dick (an actual public FSM) has selected Vicky Cantlay (another actual public person) for her 2D alignment course." Every week he told that sick joke.

On Friday, I would dole out the payroll. Every staff member would come to get their cash and would form a long line. All of the mighty $10 a week stipend was paid in cash. Our total payroll for about 150 peiople was a about $2,000 per week. Just imagine that number. $2,000 per week to pay 150 people! the amount was so small, even for 1972 dollars.

We would break for dinner right next door and then after dinner, I would work until 10:30 and then head over to the center to watch the night's entertainment. The entertainment was great and of good quality about the equal of very good Las Vegas Lounge Entertainment. A typical night's entertainment would feature Dick Glass, the Eloquent Elephant and, then maybe Paul Shapiro singing his own songs and Sharon Gregg singing songs such as "Son of a Preacher Man" Solari and Carr would put on skits and Frank and Frank, two 6'6" string bass players would do some loud but good rhthym and blues songs. The Centre was always packed to the limit with about 150 seats being filled plus more people watching from the snack bar area. My good friend, Beverly Carter hung around after course and we would get something from the snack bar and go and sit together. It was really a shame, she and I were a perfect couple, about the same age and she was an extremely attractive woman, I really had the hots for her and she told me she was pyscially attracted to me too and thought I was one of the nicest guys she had ever met and she thought I was smart and had a good sense of humor and the whole thing. Her block on a 2 D for us was that her dream was that her 2D must be in show business. She and her 2D had to work on projects together. She said that she would not compromise this reality. We became good friends, along with my brother we became a threesome and hung out together and we went to her house and swam there on the weekends before I joined staff and so forth. She and I should have had a 2D but it never happened, she never found the show business personality she desired and she died at Flag, never having been married or even having had any stable 2D, in 1992 at the age of 52. I did not find out she had died until around 2006 when I found out on the internet.

Finally the CCLA show ended at midnight and I walked 1 block to my apartment and went to sleep only to start the same routine over the next day. So ends this trip through nostalgia, simulating an actual post of mine on this thread last October.
Lakey
 
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gfyork

Patron
If ya don't let go a my leg, I'm gonna tell the boss.

Gary York sounds like a real suspicious nom de plume

Gary Cooper played Sgt. York in the flickers. I find the coincidence a little overbearing!

Who are you really? and why do you keep following us around the planet?

CC, St. Jo, and now here? I bet you're even doing surveillance on Tony LaRussa from where you sit.


I don't know no "Tony" LaRussa cause I don't watch baseball no more.

And, damn it, I WAS "Sgt. York." Just, ya know, not _that_ one.


I'm giving your contact information to Detective Joe Friday, he'll get to the bottom of this.


Friday is now, ah, _protected_ if ya catch my drift. If ya try it, I'll send condolences to your mama.

Sweet dreams,

G.

 

FoTi

Crusader
Gary York has inspired me to write about the old CCLA the way I was doing in October and November 2009. I am going to mock up a typical day at the Celebrity Centre in L.A. in 1972.

Return with me now to a typical post I would write last October..........
A typical day at CCLA circa Summer of 1972 - Fictional but based on fact.


I wake up about 7:00 AM n my apartment, shared with my Brother, also on staff and take a shower, shave and put on a white shirt and some dark slacks and walk three blocks over to the staff house on the northwest corner of 9th & Lake. I may buy an L.A. Times on the way over to check the sports scores. I arrive at the staff house for 7:30 muster. Muster is led by Shareen Stuart who first calls roll and then leads us in calisthenics. About 35-40 staff show up. The calisthenics are mild and everyone is young so they go fast.

Qual Sec Sam Loria then leads us in a Chinese School of the Org Board. His opening line is always, "Say good morning to the Org Board!" He has a smile on his face as he says this and after we all do it loudly and in unison, he gives the next command, "Have the Org Board say good morning to you!" He then goes through each department perhaps one day focusing on the awareness characteristics perhaps on the next day focusing on something else. We then break for breakfast at about 7:45 AM. There are a couple of vats of scrambled eggs, a couple of vats of crisp bacon, and stacks and stacks of toast on serving plates along with sticks of margarine. Vats of hot coffee have been brewed and are awaiting us as are cartons of orange juice made from concentrate. There is also a large array of granolas and pitchers of milk, Alta Dena brand at that, a premium brand of milk.

Next we report to our posts, mine being in Treasury in the basement of the Lake St. house, near the galley.

Smiling, Kitty Georgius the Treasury Sec is there waiting for us, as is DIr of RAM, Frances Pavlides, and my Purchasing Officer, Adelle Vonnie. Our Cashier, Mark Ambrose, refuses to come to muster and is given a pass by Kitty and the execs because he stats are among the highest in the world.

Just as roll call starts to be called, Kenny and Kathy Wasserman, who live only about 12 feet from Treasury and are separated from us by only a blanket, wake up and start having some sex, sort of a morning quickie befoe they go on post. They turn on a recording of Elton John's Rocket Man and the groans and grunts start, just 12 feet away from us and make it difficult for Kitty to call roll but she makes it through while they are still going strong. Kitty gives us a pep talk and somewhere during that pep talk, the Wasserman's reach their climaxes, one right after the other. As Kitty's pep talk goes on, Ken Wasserman emerges from behind the hanging blanket and heads out to his post with a friendly "Hi guys" addressed to us all. About 5 minutes later, Kathy emerges, all dressed and we all say hi to her too.

I head off to study where I am studying the Director of Disbursements full hat in the hatting college run by the super able and ethical Carole Ferguson. About 35 to 40 staff are studying along with me. I am an F/Ning student and the time goes quickly and 12:00 Noon arrives quickly and I had back to the Lake St. house for lunch down in the galley in the basement. I sit at a table with this attractive red headed girl, Elena Walbroek who invitied me to sit at her mess table when I first joined staff. Dick Hubbard is also at our table. Those are the only ones I remember but there were maybe about 5 regulars. Henry Baumgard would often join our group. The food was good, always a salad and then a main dish and a starch such as potatoes of one type or another. There was plenty of bread and margarine and large quantities of Alta Dena milk and plenty of orange juice and also fruit punch. The dishes were taken away and there was always a small dessert such as a pudding or a piece of cake. VOTING ON THE MEAL We had to vote on each meal, with scores ranging from inedible all the way to incredible with votes going for both the food itself and for the service.

After lunch it was off to post. My desk was in the basement at Lake St. just a few yards from the mess hall. I would say hi to kitty, Frances and Adele and start in on my in basket. I would work diligently on my post duties from 1 to 6 pm. I knew the hat cold and was very good at it. Special days were Thursday morning where Bob Mithoff from Div 6 would come over with all the FSM checks to be written and the two of us would work on those together for from 90 to 120 minutes. We wrote around 35 FSM checks a week. They would range from $25 bucks to maybe $400. Bobby Mithoff had a sick joke where he always would say, Daniel Dick (an actual public FSM) has selected Vicky Cantlay (another actual public person) for her 2D alignment course. Every week he told that sick joke.

On Friday, I would dole out the payroll. Every staff member would come to get their check and would form a long line. All of the mighty $10 a week stipend was paid in cash. Our total payroll for about 150 peiople was a about $2,000 per week. Just imagine that number. $2,000 per week to pay 150 people! the amount was so small, even for 1972 dollars.

We would break for dinner right next door and then after dinner, I would work until 10:30 and then head over to the center to watch the night's entertainment. The entertainment was great and of good quality about the equal of very good Las Vegas Lounge Entertainment. A typical night's entertainment would feature Dick Glass, the Eloquent Elephant and, then maybe Paul Shapiro singing his own songs and Sharon Gregg singing songs such as "Son of a Preacher Man" Solari and Carr would put on skits and Frank and Frank, two 6'6" string bass players would do some loud but good rhthym and blues songs. The Centre was always packed to the limit with about 150 seats being filled plus more people watching from the snack bar area. My good friend, Beverly Carter hung around after course and we would get something from the staff bar and go and sit together. It was really a shame, she and I were a perfect couple, about the same age and she was an extremely attractive woman, I really had the hots for her and she told me she was pyscially attracted to me too and thought I was one of the nicest guys she had ever met and she thought I was smart and had a good sense of humor and the whole thing. Her block on a 2 D for us is that her dream was that her 2D must be in show business. Her and her 2D had to work on projects together. She said that she would not compromise this reality. We became good friends, along with my brother we became a threesome and hung out together and we went to her house and swam there on the weekends before I joined staff and so forth. She and I should have had a 2D but it never happened, she never found the show business personality she desired and she died at Flag, never having been married or even having had any stable 2D, in 1992 at the age of 52. I did not find out she had died until around 2006 when I found out on the internet.

Finally the CCLA show ended at midnight and I walked 1 block to my apartment and went to sleep only to start the same routine over the next day. So ends this trip through nostalgia, simulating an actual post of mine on this thread last October.
Lakey

This was fun to read, Lakey. Thanks. CC was jumpin' back in those days. It was fun to be there for a while until I couldn't get the service delivered that I had paid for, so I moved over to ASHO. But, I loved the atmosphere at CC when it was on 8th St. with all the artists and entertainment. (I thought CC lost it's charm when they moved to La Brea.) I was going to school as an Interior Design major at that time and I thought the carpet was quite interesting and fun.....carpet samples, which I assumed were obtained for free, and put together to create the carpet for CC. I enjoyed the creativity and inginuity of it. CC at that time was obviously filled with a lot of creative and wonderful people. I thought CC lost a lot of it's charm as time went on and they moved into more expensive quarters and it eventually became a glitzy business like it is today.....only for the rich and famous....too bad....it was so charming back in those days.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
This was fun to read, Lakey. Thanks. CC was jumpin' back in those days. It was fun to be there for a while until I couldn't get the service delivered that I had paid for, so I moved over to ASHO. But, I loved the atmosphere at CC when it was on 8th St. with all the artists and entertainment. (I thought CC lost it's charm when they moved to La Brea.) I was going to school as an Interior Design major at that time and I thought the carpet was quite interesting and fun.....carpet samples, which I assumed were obtained for free, and put together to create the carpet for CC. I enjoyed the creativity and inginuity of it. CC at that time was obviously filled with a lot of creative and wonderful people. I thought CC lost a lot of it's charm as time went on and they moved into more expensive quarters and it eventually became a glitzy business like it is today.....only for the rich and famous....too bad....it was so charming back in those days.


I kind of noticed that the entirety of scientology lost its charm as time went on. :thumbsup:
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
This is another interesting video from TED talks.

What if all the turmoil spewed by talking heads is nothing but half-truths and outright lies designed to keep a few in power and control? Ridley shows an interesting graph and makes a strong case for population growth and fair trade. I have been leaning philosophically towards isolationism. I am now rethinking the matter.

During the talk I twigged on various reasons why the CoS will fail, reasons more fundamental than having a sociopath running the organization. It has everything to do with fair trade, exchange, and individual contributions to the big picture.

I hope you enjoy this as I did. About a 15 minute investment.

TED Talks: Matt Ridley: When Ideas Have Sex

Very roughly paraphrasing something I read: the objective of the power structure is to keep the people perpetually afraid, and clamoring for the power structure to save them.

Another favorite quote "If voting really could change anything, it would also be made illegal".
 

gfyork

Patron
Set the wayback machine, Mr. Peabody.

Gary York has inspired me to write about the old CCLA the way I was doing in October and November 2009. I am going to mock up a typical day at the Celebrity Centre in L.A. in 1972.

Return with me now to a typical post I would write last October..........
A typical day at CCLA circa Summer of 1972 - Fictional but based on fact.


I wake up about 7:00 AM n my apartment, shared with my Brother, also on staff and take a shower, shave and put on a white shirt and some dark slacks and walk three blocks over to the staff house on the northwest corner of 9th & Lake. I may buy an L.A. Times on the way over to check the sports scores. I arrive at the staff house for 7:30 muster. Muster is led by Shareen Stuart who first calls roll and then leads us in calisthenics. About 35-40 staff show up. The calisthenics are mild and everyone is young so they go fast.

Qual Sec Sam Loria then leads us in a Chinese School of the Org Board. His opening line is always, "Say good morning to the Org Board!" He has a smile on his face as he says this and after we all do it loudly and in unison, he gives the next command, "Have the Org Board say good morning to you!" He then goes through each department perhaps one day focusing on the awareness characteristics perhaps on the next day focusing on something else. We then break for breakfast at about 7:45 AM. There are a couple of vats of scrambled eggs, a couple of vats of crisp bacon, and stacks and stacks of toast on serving plates along with sticks of margarine. Vats of hot coffee have been brewed and are awaiting us as are cartons of orange juice made from concentrate. There is also a large array of granolas and pitchers of milk, Alta Dena brand at that, a premium brand of milk.

Next we report to our posts, mine being in Treasury in the basement of the Lake St. house, near the galley.

Smiling, Kitty Georgius the Treasury Sec is there waiting for us, as is DIr of RAM, Frances Pavlides, and my Purchasing Officer, Adelle Vonnie. Our Cashier, Mark Ambrose, refuses to come to muster and is given a pass by Kitty and the execs because he stats are among the highest in the world.

Just as roll call starts to be called, Kenny and Kathy Wasserman, who live only about 12 feet from Treasury and are separated from us by only a blanket, wake up and start having some sex, sort of a morning quickie befoe they go on post. They turn on a recording of Elton John's Rocket Man and the groans and grunts start, just 12 feet away from us and make it difficult for Kitty to call roll but she makes it through while they are still going strong. Kitty gives us a pep talk and somewhere during that pep talk, the Wasserman's reach their climaxes, one right after the other. As Kitty's pep talk goes on, Ken Wasserman emerges from behind the hanging blanket and heads out to his post with a friendly "Hi guys" addressed to us all. About 5 minutes later, Kathy emerges, all dressed and we all say hi to her too.

I head off to study where I am studying the Director of Disbursements full hat in the hatting college run by the super able and ethical Carole Ferguson. About 35 to 40 staff are studying along with me. I am an F/Ning student and the time goes quickly and 12:00 Noon arrives quickly and I had back to the Lake St. house for lunch down in the galley in the basement. I sit at a table with this attractive red headed girl, Elena Walbroek who invitied me to sit at her mess table when I first joined staff. Dick Hubbard is also at our table. Those are the only ones I remember but there were maybe about 5 regulars. Henry Baumgard would often join our group. The food was good, always a salad and then a main dish and a starch such as potatoes of one type or another. There was plenty of bread and margarine and large quantities of Alta Dena milk and plenty of orange juice and also fruit punch. The dishes were taken away and there was always a small dessert such as a pudding or a piece of cake. VOTING ON THE MEAL We had to vote on each meal, with scores ranging from inedible all the way to incredible with votes going for both the food itself and for the service.

After lunch it was off to post. My desk was in the basement at Lake St. just a few yards from the mess hall. I would say hi to kitty, Frances and Adele and start in on my in basket. I would work diligently on my post duties from 1 to 6 pm. I knew the hat cold and was very good at it. Special days were Thursday morning where Bob Mithoff from Div 6 would come over with all the FSM checks to be written and the two of us would work on those together for from 90 to 120 minutes. We wrote around 35 FSM checks a week. They would range from $25 bucks to maybe $400. Bobby Mithoff had a sick joke where he always would say, Daniel Dick (an actual public FSM) has selected Vicky Cantlay (another actual public person) for her 2D alignment course. Every week he told that sick joke.

On Friday, I would dole out the payroll. Every staff member would come to get their check and would form a long line. All of the mighty $10 a week stipend was paid in cash. Our total payroll for about 150 peiople was a about $2,000 per week. Just imagine that number. $2,000 per week to pay 150 people! the amount was so small, even for 1972 dollars.

We would break for dinner right next door and then after dinner, I would work until 10:30 and then head over to the center to watch the night's entertainment. The entertainment was great and of good quality about the equal of very good Las Vegas Lounge Entertainment. A typical night's entertainment would feature Dick Glass, the Eloquent Elephant and, then maybe Paul Shapiro singing his own songs and Sharon Gregg singing songs such as "Son of a Preacher Man" Solari and Carr would put on skits and Frank and Frank, two 6'6" string bass players would do some loud but good rhthym and blues songs. The Centre was always packed to the limit with about 150 seats being filled plus more people watching from the snack bar area. My good friend, Beverly Carter hung around after course and we would get something from the staff bar and go and sit together. It was really a shame, she and I were a perfect couple, about the same age and she was an extremely attractive woman, I really had the hots for her and she told me she was pyscially attracted to me too and thought I was one of the nicest guys she had ever met and she thought I was smart and had a good sense of humor and the whole thing. Her block on a 2 D for us is that her dream was that her 2D must be in show business. Her and her 2D had to work on projects together. She said that she would not compromise this reality. We became good friends, along with my brother we became a threesome and hung out together and we went to her house and swam there on the weekends before I joined staff and so forth. She and I should have had a 2D but it never happened, she never found the show business personality she desired and she died at Flag, never having been married or even having had any stable 2D, in 1992 at the age of 52. I did not find out she had died until around 2006 when I found out on the internet.

Finally the CCLA show ended at midnight and I walked 1 block to my apartment and went to sleep only to start the same routine over the next day. So ends this trip through nostalgia, simulating an actual post of mine on this thread last October.
Lakey

Thanks for this, Lakey; I might have been off to the ships or even to ASHO by summer of '72 though much of it is as I remember.

I do recall the, "Chinese School" Org Board lessons. Made me feel like a damn fool but -- I did learn the 'form of the org.' Course, it wasn't too long later it kinda changed on us.

And I gotta tell you, I never ever got $10.00 pay in any week I was there. A full weeks pay, I tell you, was $9.40. And might be they disbursed checks to those who had checking accounts; I seem to recall getting an envelope with cash in it. If the pay was 10 bucks, I want to know who was raking off my sixty cents?

Does anyone recall the time, at CC, when someone scored a bunch of seconds from a rug (factory? outlet?) disburser? I recall soon after I started staff, late '70 or early '71, we had an 'all hands' to _glue_ the patchwork carpet to the floor.

Come on, Lakey, let's sing it! I'll let you take the high notes; together now, "Those were the days!"

G.
 

Enthetan

Master of Disaster
My good friend, Beverly Carter hung around after course and we would get something from the staff bar and go and sit together. It was really a shame, she and I were a perfect couple, about the same age and she was an extremely attractive woman, I really had the hots for her and she told me she was pyscially attracted to me too and thought I was one of the nicest guys she had ever met and she thought I was smart and had a good sense of humor and the whole thing. Her block on a 2 D for us is that her dream was that her 2D must be in show business. Her and her 2D had to work on projects together. She said that she would not compromise this reality. We became good friends, along with my brother we became a threesome and hung out together and we went to her house and swam there on the weekends before I joined staff and so forth. She and I should have had a 2D but it never happened, she never found the show business personality she desired and she died at Flag, never having been married or even having had any stable 2D, in 1992 at the age of 52. I did not find out she had died until around 2006 when I found out on the internet.

Over the years, I've seen this phenomenon in several women, mocking up who their perfect 2D would be, and not willing to settle for anybody less. Then they wind up in their forties alone and bitter, an example that there is such a thing as having too much self-esteem.

On the 2D at least, guys seem to be less susceptible to this. We might have fantasies of movie star girls, but we are more likely to appreciate the girl we've actually got.
 

thetanic

Gold Meritorious Patron
Over the years, I've seen this phenomenon in several women, mocking up who their perfect 2D would be, and not willing to settle for anybody less. Then they wind up in their forties alone and bitter, an example that there is such a thing as having too much self-esteem.

On the 2D at least, guys seem to be less susceptible to this. We might have fantasies of movie star girls, but we are more likely to appreciate the girl we've actually got.

Strangely, the only people I know in this situation at 40+ are male. I can think of two offhand.
 

Ted

Gold Meritorious Patron
Very roughly paraphrasing something I read: the objective of the power structure is to keep the people perpetually afraid, and clamoring for the power structure to save them.

Another favorite quote "If voting really could change anything, it would also be made illegal".


This TED Talk goes along with something you had mentioned on another thread. It is late and I am not thinking straight so I can't say which thread. Earlier I was going to post it there, too, but I am lazy. :p
 
Thanks for the Ack, Eeepie!

Hey Lakey and friends - I also wore the slide rule (and sly drool) - just that ya forgot the plastic pocket protector to hold yer writing instruments and drafting pencil! :wink2:

And for the girl's apparel, did ya purposely leave out that wrist-numbing item the "panty girdle" ... :confused2::melodramatic:

I got my engineering degree (Mechanical) in '64, btw, from Vanderbilt in Nashville Tennessee :) a great city/town then and, I'm sure now.

You have, to my mind, ear and eye, accurately described the scene and I appreciate all your posts very much. :clap:

I'll save the "ramble" for another time and review some things first - but I want to explore something that someone posted earlier to the effect that most couples getting married were not up to dealing with the "freedoms" of marriage and thus failed at "creating" desirable or wanted "futures"...

Not sure that I got it quite right - but that concept hit me like a ton of bricks as totally applicable to my first, troubled, marriage; and I have been realigning a whole lot of hitherto unresolved things in my universe positively since that post.

(hows that for saying big "wins" and "cogs" without scn jargon?) :coolwink:

Keep on keepin' on!

Mike Horton
EP

Well, good for you, honey! Mike, I love celebrating other people's wins! :happydance:

It is HARD for most folks to create a bigger game for themselves...that's why I think we all need each other to bounce ideas, energy and enthusiasm off of, and to encourage each other. By doing so, it gives us more juice to create, too! :coolwink:

Likening this thread to an all-star cast is VERY apt! :clap:

Hey everybody...we busted 90,000! Hurrah, Lakey! You and Carmelo each have your own ways with fostering success on this thread...and so do I! :coolwink: Well, done, everybody! Posts just keep getting better and better!

Welcome Rafael, glad you joined us! :) Can I call you Rafa? :D

I lived through that same transition, too! What wild times we have seen and survived! :eyeroll:

I LOVE it's a Mad, Mad, etc. World! If you haven't watched it yet, do so, it's a great study in human motivations and relationships, and darn funny to boot!:thumbsup:

Carmy, I picks my own cots, but it's too hot to do any canning... glad to see the kids are having a fun vacation! :yes:

For my Bro Facey, I play outdoors and listen to the birds sing and pet the plants, talk to skittering or sunning lizards, etc. etc. every single day...I kid you not, every day! I am an authentic nature child... No wonder we are related!!!:happydance: :coolwink:
 
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lkwdblds

Crusader
I participated in gluing down the patchwork carpet!

Thanks for this, Lakey; I might have been off to the ships or even to ASHO by summer of '72 though much of it is as I remember.

I do recall the, "Chinese School" Org Board lessons. Made me feel like a damn fool but -- I did learn the 'form of the org.' Course, it wasn't too long later it kinda changed on us.

And I gotta tell you, I never ever got $10.00 pay in any week I was there. A full weeks pay, I tell you, was $9.40. And might be they disbursed checks to those who had checking accounts; I seem to recall getting an envelope with cash in it. If the pay was 10 bucks, I want to know who was raking off my sixty cents?

Does anyone recall the time, at CC, when someone scored a bunch of seconds from a rug (factory? outlet?) disburser? I recall soon after I started staff, late '70 or early '71, we had an 'all hands' to _glue_ the patchwork carpet to the floor.

Come on, Lakey, let's sing it! I'll let you take the high notes; together now, "Those were the days!"

G.

As I wrote in the early part of my thread, I particpated one day in glueing down those carpet samples. It was either at the very tail end of 1970 or very early in 1971 as I reckon it. I was public there while my brother was on staff as first Success Officer and later as letter reg. I was on course there and a pitch was made to public students to help glue down the carpet. I volunteered. The carpet was definitely donated free and so was the labor to glue it down. There was no pattern to follow, we just put each piece in a mosaic with color matching being done to our own personal tastes. Yvonne was there when we started and she would check in on us every 45 minutes or so, and had a big toothy grin and would nod her approval and give us all thanks. She was really at her very best when her Org was being physically created. Ear to ear grins and up a spirit of play and games on the tone scale.

My brother who had the makings of a GREAT stand up comedian and could have been one if he the ability to work for that, which he did not, made a really funny remark just after we all finished the job and were sitting there sipping cold drinks which were given us free from the snack bar. He said, and I quote, "So many people, including celebrities, have commented on how beautiful and artistic our patchwork carpet is. All of them believe that we are laying this type of carpet to create an artistic space, none of them know the truth that we are laying this type of carpet because it is the only thing which we can afford because we are getting it done, labor and material, for free." That comment really cracked me up. At that time I was still public and had no idea how strong or weak the Org's finances were.

As time would tell, once I joined staff, I quickly found out that the Org was operating on a shoe string. The measly staff pay of $10 a week was only met about 75% of the time. About 15% of the time we got 1/2 pay and 10% of the time we got no pay. We were told our missing portions of pay would eventually be paid when we were doing better but that turned out to be a complete falsehood. We had a dateline of all back bills which I kept in disbursements and not one dime of missed staff pay was ever even put on the date line to be scheduled to be paid. The think on it was that the staff had not made it go right and pulled in low pay and they should not be rewarded later on by receiving old back pay when the Org was doing well.

Gary, the fact that you received $9.40 a week instead of $10 puzzled me at first but I think I figured it out. I, Lakey, did not start in Treasury until late in 1971 when the pay was $10 a week. Back in 1970 the pay was probably $9.40 a week. It seems to me this other guy who worked in treasury before me, also named Gary, might have the answer to that. Hector Carmona knows him and maybe can set up a meeting between me and the other Gary. From what they tell me, he was pretty good in treasury himself, almost as good as me. He probably left when he heard that Kitty was taking over.
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THE END OF THE 1950'S - THE 1950's DID NOT END UNTIL 1963!
The United States had a certain type of culture with certain types of values, codes and mores. The hey day of this period was the 1950's but the period actually ran from 1946 to 1963. The event that seems to have ended the 1950's was the assassination of President Kennedy, in November of 1963. Almost overnight, everything changed, the Baby Boomers culture took over, bringing in its own music, drug usage, and criticism of the old guard. The Baby Boomers resented the great depression of the 1930's, resented WWI and the poor resolution at the end of that war which led to WWII and they really resented WWII and now the Viet Nam war started to rear its ugly head and they were determined to get the USA out of that new War. In fact they did not want war ever to occur again. In John Lennon's great song, "Imagine" must of the key words powering the 1960's and the entire Baby Boomer generation are deftly stated.

In "Its a MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD World" released in 1963, we are offered a full glimpse of the world of the 1950's which was still going on at the time the movie was filmed. This is the last possible glimpse of that world because in a matter of months that world was gone.

I remember that I was on campus as a junior at UCLA as late as June of 1960 and all the guys had pressed slacks sort of like dockers and Ivy league shirts with button down collars and a button on the back of the collar as well. Hair styles were crew cuts, or flat tops for the jocks and the nerds and for the more hip guys who made it with the girls and liked drag racing their cars, etc., they had hair cuts more like the Fonz's in "Happy Days" or Travolta's in "Saturday Night Fever". All guys were clean shaven. The guys in engineering such as myself, then age 20, wore a slide rule dangling from their belts (talk about nerdism).

What did the girls wear? Some still wore dresses with petty coars and saddle shoes, with crisply pressed blouses. Others wore straight skirts. The dresses were long. The hair was reminiscent of the 50's. I left UCLA after June 1960 and got my Bachelor's degree in math at Cal State Fullerton in 1962.

I had occasion to return to UCLA in 1965 when I was working for Douglas Aircraft in Culver City. They wanted me to take a programming class in the new language of BASIC. I arrived on campus and was bowled over by what confronted me. Heavily bearded men wearing tank tops, shorts and sandals walked the campus. Chicks, almost all in jeans with some wearing jeans cut to be shorts, mini skirts, open blouses showing cleavage, tank tops, long straight hair combed out without any kind of perm, etc. I could not believe my eyes, a complete cultural revolution in just five years! Music also changed drastically as did the attitude towards marijuana usage.
Carmelo and I both agreed last night that the thread is in POWER. It has a life of its own without us. You can't kill the thread even if you hit it with a stick. It does its 450 to 500 posts every single day and some days, such as two days ago, it will rack up over 1,000 in one day.

In the pictures below, same girl, close to the year landmarks that you mention. Watch the hair. The music at each year is from the top 10 hits of that year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvhioOA8mFk&feature=fvst

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1967
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqKSOZdcRwI

1968
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I remember, back when I was on staff, hearing that certain public was "off-purpose."

"How do you know?" I'd ask.

"Well, you know," I'd hear.

"No. Tell me."

So they'd say their purpose was to be on staff, and I'd ask, "How do you know that?" And I'd point out things like, "Well, Scn's been around for 30 years and the person's 40, don't you think they had another life purpose given that they started earlier than Scn?"

I got hauled into Ethics for it more than once.

However, when I announced I was leaving staff because I was off-purpose, strangely, they agreed with me.

Here is photographic proof that my family is off purpose. Instead of studying the basics last week or donating to the IAS fight for freedom, my wife, a well known Class Vlll and Founding Scientologist was having fun. Setting a bad example for children and grandchildren. To top it off, none of our children or grandchildren are Sea Org members.

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