paul.spiritualquest
Patron with Honors
I´m gonna tell you three fairy tales. Tell me which one you like best out of the three.
TALE 1:
A man has heavy problems with himself, more concretely with his ego. He is afflicted by sexual problems, he can´t properly perform and is having a hard time with his manhood. He self-hypnosis himself to become the biggest name in his history. His intention is to hit it big, and he knows he either becomes a writer, a painter or a sculptor. He practices several occultism rhites for years, and through affirmations comes to the conviction that he will be able to dominate man. At the same time, he has heavy problems with his wife.
He writes a book on the mind, intending it as fiction, and never expecting it to become a blockbuster. It becomes a blockbuster. He sees the opportunity to make it big. But whenever he collaborates with people, his ego doesn´t allow him to keep and build long lasting relationships. His confidence is non extant. With the years, he becomes more and more paranoid about men, and starts to embed his paranoia about men, into his technology. He runs from one organization to the other, till he finds out, that the only way to make it is via an authoritative control system.
He flees to England, and tends to build it up from zero. Great people arrive there and help him out, both on the administrative and technical side. Any discovery which is made, he apropriates as his own. He is followed by the British Intelligence, as he is questioning somehow the status quo. He also flees from himself (and his deeds, stealing ideas from others) one more time, in the need of more control, which cannot be accomplished in the actual system of organization.
He builds a completely hierarchical management system, and shortly later finds the "technical" undercut for it, an older incident which affects all mankind, and that only him, the great saviour was able to uncover. This justifies new pieces of control: lower conditions, the RPF, the commodore´s messengers...
His paranoia about man gets more accute. There is us and them. And within us, there is a lot of hidden them. Degraded beings come into existence, pts tech. It is not anymore about helping, it is about defending.
His son dies, the father accumulates more and more karma.
In the end, his only escape is to finish in hiding as Howard Hughes, in the wildest dramatization of his paranoia about man. He dies lonely, and separated from his wife, with an injection of vistaril.
Facts for this tale are:
1. He has many followers, and many become his slaves, his affirmations worked.
2. Many women admire him. His affirmations worked.
3. He controlled men mentally with his mental constructs and way to see life.
4. Many people are abused mentally and physically and once they are out of his mental construct, realize what the trap was all about.
5. Many people believe it is the only way to save oneself and mankind.
Questions of this tale are? Were his intentions purely egocentrical? Did he also have an intention to truly help? Did "his" technology have some workability? What was the part that attracted people, beyond his affirmation to enslave? How come his affirmations had such a power over others, or are these two totally unrelated topics?
TALE 2:
A man with heavy personality disorders gets involved heavily into the occult, till he believes he is Aleister´s Crowley follower. In other words, he believes he is the beast. Having direct powers from the occult and in touch with his guardian angel, The Empress, dives into the powers of the spirit, and gets a book dictated which contains lots of apparent truths, that for the time being, attracts 1000s if not millions of people. This false prophet manages to tantalize lots of followers that are hypnotized by his technology and the well built tales about his paranormal powers.
In order to stay in touch with the forces of the occult, this man keeps the heavy use of drugs, and does sadistic constant acts for the purpose of feeding this spirits of darkness and the darkness in himself.
Finally following the ideas of Crowley, this man develops a whole part of his technology based on demons existing in people´s bodies.
A final (still unclear piece of material, wether it´s his or not, but which fits into this tale 2) bulletin on OTVIII talks about the second coming, and how the forces of lucifer are realy the true ones and how his purpose is to fullfill the brief period of the anti-christ reigning on earth shortly. Would a world controlled by his group not look like an orwellian kind of anti-christ society?
He dies in paranoia probably followed by the same demons, he envisioned to see entrapped in everybody´s bodies, and having dust paranoia, and also paranoia about beeing emprisoned by the government due to his high mission.
Facts for this tale are:
1. The parallelisms between Scn. and Crowley´s theories and books are worriesome. The use of the term past lives and the need to know about them are key for magician. LRH´s admiration and quotes in the PDC. His numerous mentions about magic in several references.
2. His son affirming with no doubt, that occultism was the religion at home.
3. His sadistic practices and several quotes of his use of drugs.
4. His believe in the left hand path, and making man a god, are closely linked to left-hand path occultism, as well as his interest in the control of material possesions and huge wordly power as part of a spiritual path, are parallel to occult schools of thinking.
5. His despise for love and the heart. Diminshing love to "a conjunction of admiration and sympathy". The heart has no place at all in his philosophy and the world love neither.
6. His despise in upper levels for religions as being only an implant of the Marcabians, and a covert operation.
Is this man a Reptilian coming form the reptilian fear paradigm? In order to confuse it´s followers does this man enter into an "apparent" war with the controlling powers of the world, so as to appear the good in the battle? How far a Crowley´s ideas part of all this? How far are the Marcabians part of the same trap with the implanting of the idea of christian religion? What role is this perfect orwellian-type control group in the future of mankind, or is it just one more group controlled by the reptilians via IRS?
TALE 3:
A man is a good writer, and sees his talent in writing. He writes mainly sci-fi novels and earns a good living by it. Having an experience of a dental operation and a near death incident, he researches into the mental arena. He develops an own techinque, which takes part and pieces from earlier techniques existing at the moment. Being a bit of an ego maniac, this man, doesn´t mention the true origin of the ideas he takes from here and there to develop his technology. He writes a book in 3 weeks, full of invented case histories, a few of which he truly processed.
The book becomes a boom. He sees the potential of it, and wants to be the only owner of the subject. He leaves the first foundation and gets to a second foundation in Phoenix, again his personality doesn´t permit him to stay long and steals all files from this organization in one night. He has a strong magnet to atract able people to himself. He also has the ability to grab good pieces of workable to technology and put them on his name.
Almost nobody that originally worked with him, stays with him long, as they recognize this pattern of having to be above. Nevertheless he believes in his mission to save mankind.
As time develops, attention is less on technique, and more on administration. The control of the whole operation, becomes more and more the center of interest for him, as well as his perpetuation as the leader.
This makes him create the true cancer of the administrative operation, the SPs policies, the RPF, the ethics policies, the CMO, OSA, which are the achilles heel on which the operation is being run.
This inborn cancern is being perpetuated by the new management, whose leader was raised in this paradigm, and is probably the reason while the giant may fall, this "little" inborn achilles heel cancer.
Facts for this tale are:
1. Many people have a win when they get acquainted with it. This becomes
their "stable datum" which makes them get further into the mind structure.
2. Some people resolve personal issues with the help of his technology, that
never again rise up later in their lives.
3. Some of his data are proven by personal observation and seem to be
workable.
Was the man right in how he built the organization, was it truly needed to preserve it from "attacks" and that way preserve the technology? What was paranoia, what was discovery? How far and what did he believe himself? Was it only for the money? Were there true intentions to help, at least at some moments or was it mainly for the ego of the character he created and believed himself? How far did he believe he was a Messiah, or how far did he know deeply inside in which regards he was conning, and how far did it affect him personally in his own consciousness (if it did at all) to entrap people in some regards consciously?
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I believe:
- That the end NEVER justifies the means.
- That we must become the change we want to see (M. Gandhi)
- That the analysis of the man is key to understanding the thing.
- That we all have this man´s characteristics to one extent or the other, or
we would never have been involved in it, and that it is key to analyze this
traits in us, in order to get freed of the tentacles of the mental structure
that occupied our minds.
- That there was/is a double moral, to what was said, compared to what was
done, and that we all exe-s have been part of that double morale, and that
we need to get it sorted out, not to fall now in the opposite double morale.
- That true integrity, is to be ONE (integer) in latin with words and actions,
that LRH was not ONE, he didn´t have integrity with his words and actions,
and that it is important to analyze how far it is possible (it´s sometimes
impossible to get into the universe of a very complex personality) his
TRUE intentions were.
Well, I throw this up for discussion. I hope you find it interesting, to get more into depth about this, and not just throw it off as a con, and a con man, and that was it. I believe there are far many more nuances to it, and in order to reconcile with oneself, one needs to do this type of analysis.
I believe trying to understand his underlying intentions can help a lot, to uncover for oneself, what was the reason to get so deeply involved at first.
I´m very interested in your opinions about LRH´s deep and true intentions
, specially those that were involved with him personally, and are still around in this forum, invaluable pieces of firsthand information.
Best,
Paul
TALE 1:
A man has heavy problems with himself, more concretely with his ego. He is afflicted by sexual problems, he can´t properly perform and is having a hard time with his manhood. He self-hypnosis himself to become the biggest name in his history. His intention is to hit it big, and he knows he either becomes a writer, a painter or a sculptor. He practices several occultism rhites for years, and through affirmations comes to the conviction that he will be able to dominate man. At the same time, he has heavy problems with his wife.
He writes a book on the mind, intending it as fiction, and never expecting it to become a blockbuster. It becomes a blockbuster. He sees the opportunity to make it big. But whenever he collaborates with people, his ego doesn´t allow him to keep and build long lasting relationships. His confidence is non extant. With the years, he becomes more and more paranoid about men, and starts to embed his paranoia about men, into his technology. He runs from one organization to the other, till he finds out, that the only way to make it is via an authoritative control system.
He flees to England, and tends to build it up from zero. Great people arrive there and help him out, both on the administrative and technical side. Any discovery which is made, he apropriates as his own. He is followed by the British Intelligence, as he is questioning somehow the status quo. He also flees from himself (and his deeds, stealing ideas from others) one more time, in the need of more control, which cannot be accomplished in the actual system of organization.
He builds a completely hierarchical management system, and shortly later finds the "technical" undercut for it, an older incident which affects all mankind, and that only him, the great saviour was able to uncover. This justifies new pieces of control: lower conditions, the RPF, the commodore´s messengers...
His paranoia about man gets more accute. There is us and them. And within us, there is a lot of hidden them. Degraded beings come into existence, pts tech. It is not anymore about helping, it is about defending.
His son dies, the father accumulates more and more karma.
In the end, his only escape is to finish in hiding as Howard Hughes, in the wildest dramatization of his paranoia about man. He dies lonely, and separated from his wife, with an injection of vistaril.
Facts for this tale are:
1. He has many followers, and many become his slaves, his affirmations worked.
2. Many women admire him. His affirmations worked.
3. He controlled men mentally with his mental constructs and way to see life.
4. Many people are abused mentally and physically and once they are out of his mental construct, realize what the trap was all about.
5. Many people believe it is the only way to save oneself and mankind.
Questions of this tale are? Were his intentions purely egocentrical? Did he also have an intention to truly help? Did "his" technology have some workability? What was the part that attracted people, beyond his affirmation to enslave? How come his affirmations had such a power over others, or are these two totally unrelated topics?
TALE 2:
A man with heavy personality disorders gets involved heavily into the occult, till he believes he is Aleister´s Crowley follower. In other words, he believes he is the beast. Having direct powers from the occult and in touch with his guardian angel, The Empress, dives into the powers of the spirit, and gets a book dictated which contains lots of apparent truths, that for the time being, attracts 1000s if not millions of people. This false prophet manages to tantalize lots of followers that are hypnotized by his technology and the well built tales about his paranormal powers.
In order to stay in touch with the forces of the occult, this man keeps the heavy use of drugs, and does sadistic constant acts for the purpose of feeding this spirits of darkness and the darkness in himself.
Finally following the ideas of Crowley, this man develops a whole part of his technology based on demons existing in people´s bodies.
A final (still unclear piece of material, wether it´s his or not, but which fits into this tale 2) bulletin on OTVIII talks about the second coming, and how the forces of lucifer are realy the true ones and how his purpose is to fullfill the brief period of the anti-christ reigning on earth shortly. Would a world controlled by his group not look like an orwellian kind of anti-christ society?
He dies in paranoia probably followed by the same demons, he envisioned to see entrapped in everybody´s bodies, and having dust paranoia, and also paranoia about beeing emprisoned by the government due to his high mission.
Facts for this tale are:
1. The parallelisms between Scn. and Crowley´s theories and books are worriesome. The use of the term past lives and the need to know about them are key for magician. LRH´s admiration and quotes in the PDC. His numerous mentions about magic in several references.
2. His son affirming with no doubt, that occultism was the religion at home.
3. His sadistic practices and several quotes of his use of drugs.
4. His believe in the left hand path, and making man a god, are closely linked to left-hand path occultism, as well as his interest in the control of material possesions and huge wordly power as part of a spiritual path, are parallel to occult schools of thinking.
5. His despise for love and the heart. Diminshing love to "a conjunction of admiration and sympathy". The heart has no place at all in his philosophy and the world love neither.
6. His despise in upper levels for religions as being only an implant of the Marcabians, and a covert operation.
Is this man a Reptilian coming form the reptilian fear paradigm? In order to confuse it´s followers does this man enter into an "apparent" war with the controlling powers of the world, so as to appear the good in the battle? How far a Crowley´s ideas part of all this? How far are the Marcabians part of the same trap with the implanting of the idea of christian religion? What role is this perfect orwellian-type control group in the future of mankind, or is it just one more group controlled by the reptilians via IRS?
TALE 3:
A man is a good writer, and sees his talent in writing. He writes mainly sci-fi novels and earns a good living by it. Having an experience of a dental operation and a near death incident, he researches into the mental arena. He develops an own techinque, which takes part and pieces from earlier techniques existing at the moment. Being a bit of an ego maniac, this man, doesn´t mention the true origin of the ideas he takes from here and there to develop his technology. He writes a book in 3 weeks, full of invented case histories, a few of which he truly processed.
The book becomes a boom. He sees the potential of it, and wants to be the only owner of the subject. He leaves the first foundation and gets to a second foundation in Phoenix, again his personality doesn´t permit him to stay long and steals all files from this organization in one night. He has a strong magnet to atract able people to himself. He also has the ability to grab good pieces of workable to technology and put them on his name.
Almost nobody that originally worked with him, stays with him long, as they recognize this pattern of having to be above. Nevertheless he believes in his mission to save mankind.
As time develops, attention is less on technique, and more on administration. The control of the whole operation, becomes more and more the center of interest for him, as well as his perpetuation as the leader.
This makes him create the true cancer of the administrative operation, the SPs policies, the RPF, the ethics policies, the CMO, OSA, which are the achilles heel on which the operation is being run.
This inborn cancern is being perpetuated by the new management, whose leader was raised in this paradigm, and is probably the reason while the giant may fall, this "little" inborn achilles heel cancer.
Facts for this tale are:
1. Many people have a win when they get acquainted with it. This becomes
their "stable datum" which makes them get further into the mind structure.
2. Some people resolve personal issues with the help of his technology, that
never again rise up later in their lives.
3. Some of his data are proven by personal observation and seem to be
workable.
Was the man right in how he built the organization, was it truly needed to preserve it from "attacks" and that way preserve the technology? What was paranoia, what was discovery? How far and what did he believe himself? Was it only for the money? Were there true intentions to help, at least at some moments or was it mainly for the ego of the character he created and believed himself? How far did he believe he was a Messiah, or how far did he know deeply inside in which regards he was conning, and how far did it affect him personally in his own consciousness (if it did at all) to entrap people in some regards consciously?
============================
I believe:
- That the end NEVER justifies the means.
- That we must become the change we want to see (M. Gandhi)
- That the analysis of the man is key to understanding the thing.
- That we all have this man´s characteristics to one extent or the other, or
we would never have been involved in it, and that it is key to analyze this
traits in us, in order to get freed of the tentacles of the mental structure
that occupied our minds.
- That there was/is a double moral, to what was said, compared to what was
done, and that we all exe-s have been part of that double morale, and that
we need to get it sorted out, not to fall now in the opposite double morale.
- That true integrity, is to be ONE (integer) in latin with words and actions,
that LRH was not ONE, he didn´t have integrity with his words and actions,
and that it is important to analyze how far it is possible (it´s sometimes
impossible to get into the universe of a very complex personality) his
TRUE intentions were.
Well, I throw this up for discussion. I hope you find it interesting, to get more into depth about this, and not just throw it off as a con, and a con man, and that was it. I believe there are far many more nuances to it, and in order to reconcile with oneself, one needs to do this type of analysis.
I believe trying to understand his underlying intentions can help a lot, to uncover for oneself, what was the reason to get so deeply involved at first.
I´m very interested in your opinions about LRH´s deep and true intentions
, specially those that were involved with him personally, and are still around in this forum, invaluable pieces of firsthand information.Best,
Paul
I couldn't have said it better. 
Love it. I wanna play..I wanna play
), and where he was coming from. How far do you believe he was aware of the entrapping of people, 
how much he was from HIS standpoint into helping, and how much he was aware of enslaving? 
