Sara Northrup . . . touching the third rail

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Questions for nervous Sea Org executives in the witness stand would be:


  1. "Were you lying then or are you lying now?"
  2. "Do you want to risk perjury and jail time?"
  3. "What do you want to say today, now that you're under oath?"
  4. "Do you want to check again and see if you can remember more clearly today?"
  5. "You want to take another look there?"
  6. "What did you know and when did you know it?" (a Watergate classic)

And if the judge rules in favor of the Prosecutor--that hooking up the witness electropsychometrically is permissible:

7. "That...that.....that....."

Even if it's a dummy meter, unplugged and without any internal electronics, the cross examination steering will still work standardly. Because scientologists are super superstitious & super spooked about that little eternity repair gadget.
 

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Exactly!

Scientology's biggest fears are the inner-circle "loyal officers" defecting and turning against them, exposing all the black ops. Such as:
a. CHURCH LAWYERS: (this has never happened to date)

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This possibility certainly could be explosive, and while not very likely, it IS possible. (particularly during any criminal proceedings that take place during the final days of the cult)

IANAL, but my understanding of attorney-client privilege is that it's designed to serve the interests of justice, and not to protect criminals from committing further criminal acts.

It can be broken for a number or reasons, including fraud.

A "church" lawyer that goes this route though may very well need to enter the Witness Protection Program.​
 

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also if alexis is alive, lets get some video or a book with her side of the story before she dies! where is she?

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Sara passed away in December 1997.

Her daughter, Alexis, had written me. So, around that time, I had two phone conversations with Alexis. Her mother was gravely ill, yet was was still lucid, and was making some recordings about her experiences with Hubbard.

I suggested that Professor Steve Kent would be a good person to whom these recordings could be sent.

Excerpts of these later appeared in the 'Going Clear' documentary.

Hopefully someday, the full content of this audio recording will become available.
 

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This possibility certainly could be explosive, and while not very likely, it IS possible. (particularly during any criminal proceedings that take place during the final days of the cult)

IANAL, but my understanding of attorney-client privilege is that it's designed to serve the interests of justice, and not to protect criminals from committing further criminal acts.

It can be broken for a number or reasons, including fraud.

A "church" lawyer that goes this route though may very well need to enter the Witness Protection Program.​


True.

The lawyer could thusly be named as a defendant, collaborator, co-conspirator, participant in RICO case, et al.

A lawyer can even be prohibited from representation of the client (see case of John Gotti's superstar atty, Bruce Cutler, who got him him off federal cases several time, not always legally) and Cutler was booted from his defense team in the trial that "stuck" with the "teflon" don.
 

Gib

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DM has finally touched the third rail of Ron's second (bigamous) marriage to Sara Northrup.

Tony O writes here:

http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/07/de...ances-scientology-goes-down-a-dangerous-path/

The Freedom YouTube video he mentions (Sara begins at 6:14):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFwuwSD0Yds

Letters from Hubbard in his own hand that confirm:

  • he and Sara were in fact married
  • he fathered Alexis
  • Sara helped him in the early stages of Dianetics
  • Sara audited him
  • they were pitifully broke at the time
Gib has written up instructions on how to get a copy of these PDF
documents (Part II is what you want) safely and securely for your own.

LRH Correspondence:

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthre...sicientology&p=1058047&viewfull=1#post1058047

General Correspondence 1948-1951, Section 1, Part 2
CORR306-02

Part 2, 310 pages, continuing similar correspondence. Highlights include: Extended correspondence with L. Ron Hubbard, including Hubbard talking about some of the concepts that would come to form the backbone of Dianetics in a letter to Heinlein in March, 1949, pp226-232. Later letters discuss the writing/publication history of "Dianetics" and the formation of "The Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation" and "Hubbard College" in Wichita, KS. Family correspondence of the Heinlein clan.

Sorry Ron, you really broke my heart and shattered my
worldview of you and the tech many years ago with this one.

View attachment 11582

I also hope peeps read the correspondence between Campbell & Heinlein. Those are even more enlightening. Campbell really tries to do a sales pitch on Heinlein, one gets the feeling good ole Ron was a part of it behind the scenes, telling Campbell how to persuade Heinlein:

http://heinleinarchives.net/upload/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=893

2 bucks to read the original letters, and most are about dianetics.
 

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Exactly!

Scientology's biggest fears are the inner-circle "loyal officers" defecting and turning against them, exposing all the black ops. Such as:

a. CHURCH LAWYERS: (this has never happened to date)

"Joe Yanny was a key attorney working for Scientology until 1987. He defected from the Scientology's legal team when he says he was asked to help church officials steal medical records to blackmail Charlie O'Rielly, the plaintiff's attorney in Wollersheim v. Scientology.

From his previous working experience inside Scientology, Joe Yanni now believes the church "has so subverted the justice and judicial system that it should be barred from seeking equity in any court."

Since Yanni quit representing the church, he has been the target of death threats, burglaries, lawsuits and other harassment. "

http://factnet.org/and-scientology-litigation

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-06-29/news/mn-705_1_joseph-yanny
 
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