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Sorry, but that's just wrong.
Lawyers who are contracted (on retainer) to attend to particular matters certainly can and will originate communications about it on behalf of their clients as they are contracted to do so.
Eben Moglen who represents the Free Software Foundation does it all the time (sends letters to suspected GPL violators).
Michael "The Sneakster" Hobson
I am *not* anonymous. I *do* forgive.
Hey, I think this is a GREAT development!
Wanna break up a mafia crime syndicate? Yer gonna need to make a deal with mass-murderer Sammy The Bull Gravano if you wanna take down John "The Teflon Don" Gotti. That's just how it goes down.
Doesn't sit right with the wives and children of all the murder victims that Sammy whacked. Bitter pill to swallow to give him immunity and a witness protection deal after a mild slap on the wrist.
But to win a war there are COMPROMISES.
Hey, World War II. Didya know that the Russians took 40,000,000 mortalities fighting the Nazis on the Eastern front. That was a good deal for the Americans & British fighting forces, wasn't it? So what that Stalin masterminded ten million deaths in his terror-filled Great Purge? It was not related to the Allied fight against the Nazis, so it was put aside for practical reasons.
If the US/British had stood "on principal" to not cooperate with the Russian's then 40 million more deaths may have been visited upon American and English troops. "Better them than us!" may be a good policy in war to follow when death is at your door.
So, what the hell difference does it make AT THIS POINT IN TIME who did what to whom? Even if Rathbun is a mini-DM with even worse designs and methods for the CoS; even if Tom Cruise is a rapist and serial wife beater and has gleefully participated in beatings and torture of Sea Org members for fun with DM....so what?
Give it some time to ferment a bit. Let it start to bubble and then see what shocking new revelations they choke out of one another. This is like a free sec check on the players that never let themselves be sec checked. They will be blowing the whistle on each other like rush hour at an implant station. Let 'em! It's fun and informative for the world.
Let OSA get completely overwhelmed investigating and "handling" enemies on every side, in the apartment upstairs and looking for listening devices in their e-meters. Let the CoS resources be scattered and wasted on all these family feuds. I think it's Hillbilly-Heaven!
Isn't that how we got Tommy Davis to spill his guts (under terrorizing pressure) that it was a regular occurrence for Sea Org Execs to throw down beatings on other top execs? He didn't just VOLUNTEER this info. It only came out when he was besieged by unpredicted revelations of disgruntled ex S.O. That is Rathbun's hat in this. So more power to him!
I am more than satisfied to let a lot of stuff slide for the time being...it will all come out eventually, don't worry about the injustices that may be temporarily "set aside".
To watch a great beast like a dinosaur or the monstrosity that is the Church Of Scientology be slayed is an ugly, ugly series of incapacitations. Animals go down in stages, in sickening thuds and terror-filled moments. That's how the CoS will go down...in hideous segments.
I love watching the internecine bloodfest that is shaping up. A veritable tableau of public relation's carnage. Who cares who the hangman or the accusers or the guilty are. They are all part of the same charade, only in varying degrees.
Let the CoS re-dedicate tens of millions to fighting for DM's safety while Cruise pathetically attempts to stop the inexorable leak of truth about who he really is come out. Let Hollywood super-attorneys and agents get an ice-cold "overboarding" when they even think about signing another Scientology actor. Let 'em have at each other! It's good when Crips and Bloods fight each other on their own turf...better than if they both join forces and come to a Starbucks while I am trying to read a book over a double espresso.
Let all them boys start to fight for the lifeboat. This is "musical chairs" played out sine Bohemian Rhapsody with a star-studded cast. I am thrilled that Rathbun sparked it cuz, in the words of Fat Clemenza (from the Godfather) after Michael Corleone asks him how bad the war between the 5 New York Families is going to be:
Clemenza: "Pretty goddam bad. Probably all the other Families will line up against us. That's all right. These things gotta happen every five years or so, ten years. Helps to get rid of the bad blood. Been ten years since the last one. You know, you gotta stop them at the beginning. Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for trouble."
Rathbun is cool with me. If he is not cool it'll get handled later. I like him cuz he is making this whole atrocity called the Church of Scientology go to the mattresses.(*)
(*) "go to the mattresses" expression describing mafia soldiers renting out apartments and filling them with mattresses for their hired killers to sleep in during a mafia war.
Well, yes.. But we're dealing with Scientology.. I think they might do it that way.. Recall that Scientology has the only justice system in this sector of the universe that actualkly works, and that the WOG justice system is irresponsibly insane and supressive. Scientologists are adviced to never use or trust it, indeed it's a High Crime to report any matter to the WOG justice system.
If scientology acts like I suspect, Tom has the opportunity to make a mighty stink if he so wishes. But he is a true believer in CoS justice it would seem.. Meaning he'll accept it.
^^^This!
I'm not sure everyone is getting how brilliant this letter actually is.
Bert is required to show it to Tom-all of it- or he is in violation of his ethics. He is required to show it particularly because Marty is implying wrongdoing on TC's part. There may be in fact no "physical" abuse of any kind, Marty has left himself leeway on that point. But that is why Bert has to show it to him.
Marty has made it so the links and the accusations against DM have to get to TC. Even were Bert not to give it to him it now will be enough in the media that he will be questioned on it. If TC reads this stuff and understands and leaves, well then we are truly at the endgame.
DM's main support is undercut.
He says he has protected him I think to give him an out and to say clearly you are not my target. Plus which if he was his auditor, there are certain things he cannot say or do, that would be conflict of interest.
IMO, Marty has done this brilliantly from a PR point of view. He may have some legal exposure but he is gambling that he will not be sued under the circumstances. And what people don't get is he is risking himself to take down DM and by extension the church.
He has said he is not looking to step in after the fall. Whether or not that is true, what he is doing is mortally wounding the CoS as a whole and I for one am grateful.
It will be interesting to see if the most litigious cult in the history of the world calls Rathbun out on this and his other accusations. I doubt they will regarding anything to do with Miscavige's personal abuses, but I'm pretty sure they'll be looking for some other way to "teach him a lesson".
I can't image Miscavige ordering or sending anything out on Cruise's behalf without first consulting Cruise. The last thing Miscavige needs right now is to piss off the few supporters he has left. If I had to guess, I think Cruise is doing what ever he can to help his friend and "best man" control the flood of negative PR that his repeated abusive behavior has caused himself and the cult.
It will be interesting to see if the most litigious cult in the history of the world calls Rathbun out on this and his other accusations. I doubt they will regarding anything to do with Miscavige's personal abuses, but I'm pretty sure they'll be looking for some other way to "teach him a lesson".
^^^This!
I'm not sure everyone is getting how brilliant this letter actually is.
Bert is required to show it to Tom-all of it- or he is in violation of his ethics. He is required to show it particularly because Marty is implying wrongdoing on TC's part. There may be in fact no "physical" abuse of any kind, Marty has left himself leeway on that point. But that is why Bert has to show it to him.
From Marty's letter:
He's saying Tom Cruise beats people like Miscavige does?
If so, why protect him at all?
In any way?
What "education" would he need?
Co-dependence, anyone?
All these INT LUNATICS are suffering from Battered Wife Syndrome - en masse!
After doing the SP Times interview, he has absolutely nothing to lose.
In business, there's two types that can be potentially dangerous if they are so inclined:
The very powerful who can crush you through whatever means money can buy.
The man who has nothing; he really can't be hurt.
It's the shortsighted mistake that Slappy has made; he leaves them in the latter position yet fully armed and with every justification to strike back. It's a miscalculation that will lead to his downfall.
And don't forget Rinder is out there...I think he's "shock and awe" waiting in the sidelines.
Ok.. I 'assumed' that his atty was a flaming scientologist, or that OSA/DM had him 'under control'.. That's what I'd expect from CoS..So why does Tom have his own high profile private attorney?
That sounds likely with a high degree of certainty.. But that way to look at this is a PR viewpoint.. And TC's PR is CoS.. I think..He's probably in the position of having to publicly state he is distancing himself from Miscavige, or having to be seen as endorsing his abuse. I suspect this will start hitting the media big time if it hasn't already. <snip>
The problem I see is Rinder has everything to lose and nothing to gain by coming out and speaking again Miscavige. Knowing the way the cult operates they probably have enough documentation on Rinder to send him to prison right along side Miscavige, you don't hold a position like that for as long as he did and remain clean. It's my understanding Rinder comes from a wealthy family and does not need to prey on people in the cult business for a living, where as Marty on the other hand is in his mid-50s and has no other marketable skills other than implanting people with false memories and brainwashing them for profit, he need gullible Sceintologists to believe Miscavige rather than Hubbard is the problem to make a living. I don't trust anyone who makes money off of Hubbard's abusive con game.
That sounds likely with a high degree of certainty.. But that way to look at this is a PR viewpoint.. And TC's PR is CoS.. I think..
Yes.. I remember now.. The 'firing' of his sister was a bit of news..His publicist since November 2005 is Paul Bloch. Not a Scientologist, as far as I know.
Paul
Ok.. I 'assumed' that his atty was a flaming scientologist, or that OSA/DM had him 'under control'.. That's what I'd expect from CoS..
Maybe Tom disregards Hubbards warnings about the WOG justice system?
Yes.. I remember now.. The 'firing' of his sister was a bit of news..
Heh.. The plot thickens! - I'm thinking.. If his atty isn't a piece of furniture in the OSA office... And his PR is independent too...
A very volatile situation.. Tom will be PTS when either his atty or publicist gives him some sensible advice.