Ogsonofgroo
Crusader
Dead women manning up? Who'd have thunk such a thing... Really though, any supposition on someone passed over...
For those who'd like to learn more about the last days of Lisa McPherson's life, please read the contents of the 'care' logs* here: http://www.xenu-directory.net/mirrors/www.whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/logs/lisam.htm
None of the people serving as 'baby watchers' directly asked Ms. McPherson what she thought about scientology and/or the efficacy of scientology-based 'treatment'.
JB
*Note: Some of the pages/entries were not submitted to the court @ that time and are presumed to have been forever 'lost'.
scientology is an applied religious philosophy known to be effective when properly used to relieve EII (emotionally induced illness) and generate higher levels of awareness...
as far as public law and societal standards are concerned the wrongful death of lisa mcpherson has received not only full and proper address but it has generated far more bad publicity for the culpable organization than any wrongful death in history other than the nazarene's
it is a closed case
a poster child is a common feature of a protest movement. lisa is ideally suited to be a poster child. it strikes me as odd that you would highlight in red my observation that such use would be inappropriate if her family objected to it because so far as i know HH you yourself promote such a standard of civility
not only that HH...
squirm and howl as you will, deny ignore and object at length, hold yur breath until you turn black in the face...
in your heart of heats you yourself know that to attempt to use lisa's wrongful death to attack and destroy the subject that she loved and her life's work is vile and ignoble
I thunk there be a personage on this forum who does not quite get it.
I thunk there be a personage on this forum who does not quite get it.
yah.
Lisa is locked up in a room, people don't know what to do really, but follow hubbardology,
meanwhile she needs medical attention, food and water, and most important of all love, affinity, and some communication.
Funny, hubbardology is supposedly about affinity, communication and reality.
And in the meantime, there are people in auditing rooms down the hall supposedly decreasing the entheta theta ratio, having wins.
we don't know just what lisa needed
she sure as hell didn't need to be locked in a room and held incommunicado
holding people incommunicado is one of CoS's WORST offenses. even with those people in the hole who are there with their consent (the authorities have more than once have answered appeals by outsiders to go in and offer such release and been told by the penitents themselves they willingly defer to CoS authority. and other religions have done the same so there is precedent. i will NOT condone it personally) shouldn't be held incommunicado
no offense, CB
could you rewrite that what you wrote so I can understand it, so I can get your viewpoint. It may take a few postings.
hmmm...
well gibby, i'll try
the post looks fairly straightforward to me
of course for anyone to truly get my viewpoint they would have to have
oops...
Second note to self: The Commander is more interested in stats (he wants his next star) than "communicating."
For those who follow my notes to myself, the first note said:
Note to self: The Commander is upset.
If you care all that much, you will have to search among my 3,500 or so posts.
once i got my third star i figured i was on the block at esmb and have't paid much attetion since winnie
and one of the problems with this format is one can dub-in inflection while reading posts
no
the commander is far from upset. the commander is quite delighted to have ponied up an exceptionally piquant citation of the eternal verites
It's not straight forward to me.
Shall I repeat the auditing command? LOL
Oh but you WERE pissed when I wrote that. I remember. But at the moment I don't recall why you were upset. Maybe you could audit that and bring me "back" to that moment on my whole track.
i'm in a library gib. i get a one hour slot and then i get to cycle through 15 minute windows on the express computers
i got another 7;20 to continue my response to your request so i won't be able to finish elaborating on
"we don't know what lisa needed
ok...
the shit really hits the fan when she turns ecdysiast (a word coined by h. l. mencken to desribe gypsy rose lee) stripping in public
ahem...
lisa was then apparently displaying conduct born of an abnormal psychological condition. but there was apparently some sort of abnormal condition developing with her over a few months. she'd gotte pretty spacey a few times and this was not usual for her.
oops...
back soon
so anyway...
i don't think lisa was usually a space cadet, i think she was an a-ticket hot shit. she had to be to be a full time scientologist for years and have $60K in the bank. the lady knew how to take care of herself. and she'd been working on some serious CoS projects (which of course made CoS very antsy about the idea of her getting out of their direct area of control. especially in an agitated state)
but...
she'd been getting a bit spacey now and then...
so if you round up the usual suspects the first two you grab are menopause and/or garden variety stress/cognitive dissonance.
body chemistry was probably a contributing factor and life always stressful but having a remarkably rich personal experience with abnormal psychology myself (and also being a solid high performing down and dirty hot shit myself) i suspect there were some uncommon and even esoteric factors involved with her
back
we don't know just what lisa needed
she sure as hell didn't need to be locked in a room and held incommunicado
holding people incommunicado is one of CoS's WORST offenses. even with those people in the hole who are there with their consent (the authorities have more than once have answered appeals by outsiders to go in and offer such release and been told by the penitents themselves they willingly defer to CoS authority. and other religions have done the same so there is precedent. i will NOT condone it personally) shouldn't be held incommunicado
all right...
now what's not to understand about "holding people incommunicado is one of CoS's worst offenses"?
CoS should be all about auditing and auditor training
all right...
yes, an "office of special affairs" is a proper and natural department of the executive division. but they want to do special ops outside the usual portfolio for a church. they want to send the pequod out to kill the great white whale...
and that's not a real tough literary allusion gibby though it does take a little bit of sophistication to grasp. i hope you recognize that the pequod and the great white whale allude to melville's immortal "moby dick" but don't go feeling as if i'm talking down to you if you didn't. and even if you did recognize the allusion you might have to think about to see how captain ahab is a fitting metaphor for the OSA...
any more questions gibby?
we don't know just what lisa needed
she sure as hell didn't need to be locked in a room and held incommunicado
holding people incommunicado is one of CoS's WORST offenses. even with those people in the hole who are there with their consent (the authorities have more than once have answered appeals by outsiders to go in and offer such release and been told by the penitents themselves they willingly defer to CoS authority. and other religions have done the same so there is precedent. i will NOT condone it personally) shouldn't be held incommunicado