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No worries mate!

Thanks for your support Panda. Your understanding, data and perspective on the scene, has certainly helped me shift much in my universe :yes: .


Sure EP, but my 6'2" hubby will want ta come along, after reading this thread and noticing your advances in previous posts :grouch: . Hubby good dude - he reckoned in last few days that I've spent so much time on computer, that I'm no use around here anyway, so was wondering if ya had any money and how much he'd get for me :bigcry:. Bloody lovely :no: :D !

Nothin' here we can na handle wi ease darlin' - got plenny plastic an even "long green" if tht wha it takes! :eyeroll: :yes: Him an me see eye to eye fer sure! :unsure: :thumbsup:

Let ole Roy an EP handle things...you'll be jus fine. :yes:

Now! You rite moar?! :clap: :grouch: :confused2:

py/EP
 
Comm-ev and Summary

The comm-ev was a farce (as they usually are). Just like comm-ev’s in the past, judgement had already been made, but unlike previous comm-evs, I didn’t particularly fight the injustice this time.

The chairman did his thing, and it was obvious where he was at. As usual it was taped, and he was certainly “playing” the role, for those who would hear the tape. Two of the members “appeared” neutral, and one had her head down and obviously felt rotten about the whole thing (I even felt sorry for her a bit).

I was accused of much, and was asked to respond to the charges, so I did. I answered honestly, and gave the relevant info re each charge. I answered the questions that came up as a result of my responses, but those questions were few. In addition to that, the chairman asked many questions of his or the committees own making. It was surreal, cause if they had been listening to my responses in the first place, or actually looked at the data right in front of their faces, then the insanity of the questions would have been obvious. The questions were based on the assumption that I had admitted guilt on everything, and they were actually sec check questions, but just simply asked. I can’t remember them all, but the following are some:
- Have you had any other out 2D, besides the one with Bob? (didn’t have the one with Bob, what d’ya mean any other?)
- Have you been involved in any sort of prostitution since being in the church? (yeah, right!)
- Do you now feel remorse for blowing the sec check? (not a sec check, no remorse)
- Are you willing to resume the sec check? (not a sec check and no way)
- How much money have you made from the volcano? (none, cost me 75k directly, not including cost of intensives for “real’ sec check and lost income due to lost time )
- Is there anyone else who has made financial gain from the volcano? (no, only financial loss and a major mind fu’k)
- Are you intending on using Dianetics or Scientology in any way, which could result in financial benefit for yourself or others? (yeah right, like it’s there for the taking)

After the comm-ev, I was surprised that I didn’t get mad and/or react to those questions, but by that time I had had enough. I was over it, and I remember thinking “what’s the point?”

For whatever reason, I was just allowed to “fade away” after that. There were comm-ev findings and of course I was guilty of every charge – including out 2D, blowing a sec check, and ripping off the church for personal financial gain. There were recommendations, but I never got to do them. I had already left the church by then.

For the record – I have NEVER experienced and have NEVER seen or heard of a comm-ev, where the person was found innocent. Comm-ev’s were definitely NOT a fact finding body in my 18 years experience in the CofS. If a comm-ev was ever issued, it was a foregone conclusion to all of us, that guilt was already pre determined, and the comm-ev was just a formality that would just add salt to the wound.

In summary

My hubby , the boys and I started a new life after this. We closed up our businesses, left the city, and bought into a 37 acre “hobby farm” with two other partners. It was a great distraction in regard to my introversion, loneliness and “loss”. For two years after my last chapter in the org, besides some part time work and the kids, I just got stuck into working on the property - gardening, landscaping, tractor work, clearing barbed wire, clearing blackberries, old stumps etc. It was extroverting work which I was used to and liked (as a kid, we had a mixed farm – a family affair for sure – on the Canterbury Plains in NZ). It was the perfect move for us. The boys were 8, 10 and 11 at the time. The bush, the horses, the motorbikes, the dam, the tractor, the chooks, the dogs the pig, the space to run around (and even the bloody snakes) etc, etc, etc - made it a real adventure for them. Having “mum and dad” back in spirit again, wasn’t bad either.

Our eldest is back in the city now, working as an international flight consultant, and doing very well. We are very good friends - we talk a lot, he visits here, and we visit him. The youngest two are still living at home (thank goodness per me, maybe not per hubby), and will probably stay with us, till they finish uni or find a girl who’ll do for them what mum does. They love it on this property, and share it with their mates - motor bikes, bush bashers, go-carts, pool parties, bonfire gatho’s, a cabin to entertain their mates and/or girls, and not forgetting the odd game of cricket on the lawn or footy in the paddock.

Hubby still commutes to the city for work, but I am working on a small development project, which will mean that he will soon have more time for surfing (which he does all year round and loves). I love it here amongst the garden, the trees and the bush, and there’s nothing like seeing the kookaburra so happily perched on my clothes line, or the sound of the cockatoos when they arrive in their hundreds to pick on the pine cones from the trees over the back.

Things are good for us. I can’t say that I regret my time in Scientology – cause I don’t. It wasn’t all bad. It gave me life and love and through it I learnt so much. Everything has turned out for the best for me, and besides that, the various lessons I’ve learned, I wouldn’t be without. We have been fortunate – I am truly sorry for and feel for those who haven’t been!

I wrote up this final episode/chapter for the benefit of others (I thought). I felt I had an obligation to do so. But since doing so, I have been pleasantly surprised on what it’s done for me. I didn’t realise what a cloud I had hanging over me, until I wrote up this stuff, posted it, and got your responses. I had always taken the episode too personally, and to a large extent was still introverted on it. I am not now. I now see the whole thing as it was – an effort by the CofS to just shut me up, and stop any influence I might have, by putting me into a hole.

I’m certainly way out of the hole now :happydance: . I have my fight back, and have restored my purpose to help – but this time, I’m on the other side of the fence :thumbsup: .

Thank you Emma for the board and support, and to all of you for your support to me and to the many on the board. Luv ya for it :yes: !

Cheers,
Ceedia
 
Icing on the caek!

The comm-ev was a farce (as they usually are).

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I wrote up this final episode/chapter for the benefit of others (I thought). I felt I had an obligation to do so. But since doing so, I have been pleasantly surprised on what it’s done for me. I didn’t realise what a cloud I had hanging over me, until I wrote up this stuff, posted it, and got your responses. I had always taken the episode too personally, and to a large extent was still introverted on it. I am not now. I now see the whole thing as it was – an effort by the CofS to just shut me up, and stop any influence I might have, by putting me into a hole.

I’m certainly way out of the hole now :happydance: . I have my fight back, and have restored my purpose to help – but this time, I’m on the other side of the fence :thumbsup: .

Thank you Emma for the board and support, and to all of you for your support to me and to the many on the board. Luv ya for it :yes: !

Cheers,
Ceedia

All the love in the world right back atcha girl! :yes:

Hands down the best success story this Ethics Particle has ever had the privilege of acknowledging! :thumbsup: :clap: :happydance:

Roy and the EP's
 
Ceedia - isn't it wonderful that you have your voice here? :happydance: All those years we carried the baggage, even if it was put away in a box somewhere, and that load is a heavy one! It flavours every thought and action in some way, because that heap of shit is how we have been labelled and tossed away with, to cope or not.
Now it sees the light of day and can be shed. :thumbsup:

You're right about the Comm-evs! I remember one person being Comm-ev'd for starting the bloody school! And receiving a commendation at the same time. :confused2: Absolute insanity!

Thanks for your story, thank you.
 
Well done

Well done Ceedia.

Not so pleasing to read about what really happened but great to hear a good ending.

The farm sounds great (and I should know).

I feel like the future is brighter.

x x x x x x Supra :)
 
Waiting...

Well done Ceedia.

Not so pleasing to read about what really happened but great to hear a good ending.

The farm sounds great (and I should know).

I feel like the future is brighter.

x x x x x x Supra :)

Where's that turbocharged avatar Supra Dude! :confused2: :waiting: :tease: :goodluck: findin just the right one, :yes:
 
Thank you for that "ending" as it seems just so normal. hehe

I'm finally feeling sorta normal myself.

What's the definition of normal anyway? haha
The new normal!
 
R and R plans

Thank you for that "ending" as it seems just so normal. hehe

I'm finally feeling sorta normal myself.

What's the definition of normal anyway? haha
The new normal!

I, and I'm sure many others, were relieved to hear from you after the storm scene down your way. Keep us posted, please. While I am from the deep south I now live in the Northeast but still feel connected - particularly to New Orleans and Baton Rouge. Big grief on the loss in my tu.

As for defining "normal"...well, dear heart, from the sound of your posts - you are perfectly normal in thought and action. Take a win! :yes: The fact that you are beginning to feel "sorta normal" is HUGE progress, IMHO! :happydance:

PM me anytime and try to join the group in vegas next year. I plan to attend even though Vegas is not my favorite place by a long shot.

All the best to you and yours,

Roy
 
Nothin' here we can na handle wi ease darlin' - got plenny plastic an even "long green" if tht wha it takes! :eyeroll: :yes: Him an me see eye to eye fer sure! :unsure: :thumbsup:

Let ole Roy an EP handle things...you'll be jus fine. :yes:

Now! You rite moar?! :clap: :grouch: :confused2:

py/EP


You are an uncouth barbarian! Even your English is fraught with pidgin and slang! :eyeroll: You offer to buy her inestimable charms like she was some Jerry-corner harlot....for shame!

I am sure Ceedia would be more in tune with a fashionable upscale man, with an Italian suit and a subtle mastery of the Intimate Arts.

And man enough to know that there would be no eye contact with Hubby in a devil's three-way x

That's right.....daddy's home! :coolwink:


----------------------------------------------

In all seriousness C, that fact that you are doing well with life, love and family after such a life-changing ordeal makes me think that someday...the evil of scientology will be no more! Good for you!

PS - two vodka martinis helped establish the eloquence of this post!
 
You are an uncouth barbarian! Even your English is fraught with pidgin and slang! :eyeroll: You offer to buy her inestimable charms like she was some Jerry-corner harlot....for shame!

I am sure Ceedia would be more in tune with a fashionable upscale man, with an Italian suit and a subtle mastery of the Intimate Arts.

And man enough to know that there would be no eye contact with Hubby in a devil's three-way x

That's right.....daddy's home! :coolwink:


----------------------------------------------

In all seriousness C, that fact that you are doing well with life, love and family after such a life-changing ordeal makes me think that someday...the evil of scientology will be no more! Good for you!

PS - two vodka martinis helped establish the eloquence of this post!


That's right! There must be no eye contact in a devils three-way!!!
:hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
 
The truth at last!

Thanks for all your support and encouragement folks! This little "exercise" of mine, has been way more beneficial than what I could have imagined. The last two or three days (especially), have been enlightening!

As I've said before, I was writing and posting this part of my story in order to give those in ANZO more reality on what does and has actually gone down within the CofS. Many knew/know me around these parts, and those who did/do would have taken my account of what went down, at face value.

As it turned out, it has had a great effect on me personally. I had no idea on how "sad" and "lossy" I still was, in regard to my experience and life within the CofS, as well as in regard to what I felt about myself. Writing, posting, getting feedback (on board as well as on personal lines), and getting data.....the truth finally.....has blown that lingering sadness and loss away! I truly have my life back now.

To a certain degree, those fuckers put me into a hole and shut me up for 10 years or so. Life for me HAS been good these last ten years, but I had no idea that I was still living a life/lie of self abnegation - until after I started posting on this thread.

Through posting this final part of my history in Scn (and through feedback), I've discovered how they so successfuly "dead agented"/"black PR'd me, to so many. I could never understand the "good roads fair weather" that I copped from so many when our paths crossed. I used to wonder "How could they believe this crap?" "Why would it make a difference?", "WTF has happened?", "Why don't I belong?", "WTF have I done?".

Well, it's apparent now (from emails and text messages I've had forwarded to me), that those in the field, didn't actually give a shit about my past, nor did they buy the black PR on the "Bob" story. They did though "buy" that I had gone "nutty" - that I be "best left well alone" for MY sake. I've heard the same "line" now, from various sources, and from the people who have been contacting me in the last couple of days, apologizing for buying it way back then.

How smart of OSA and the CofS! Of course people who I had worked with, fsmed, audited, C/Sed for, protected and helped, weren't going to just "buy" that I was a "bad egg". The "nutty"/"on the verge of type 3" line though, could and would fly (especially as I was so introverted up my arse after those bloody interviews and comm-ev). With much effort and attention on the part of OSA and CofS Execs - the "line" worked. People bought it. Bloody lovely! While I could certainly go off the wall and bloody nuts when I was cranky and faced with insideous injustices and the like - I wasn't anywhere near "nutty" or "type 3". To suggest that (let alone forward that line to the rest of the field), was a heinous crime.

I now understand it. Knowing what went down has blown away so much shit in my world! It's fully restored my self respect and my personal peace at heart (after all this time - I wasn't even aware that any of it needed restoring). I had erroneously assigned the reason/cause of my life crashing, to my own doing - when it wasn't at all! Knowing this has shifted mountains for me.

I now know what the Cof S did to me and so do others! They killed my spirit, had me cleverly packaged and submerged in a horrid dark place. Thank God and thanks to the help of many, I am no longer there! My strength and my purpose in life, is fully restored. I am content within myself and happy with my life. It feels good to have my passion and drive back, as it does being steeled in regard to my current endeavours.

Thanks and cheers folks!
Ceedia :D
 
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Great story, Ceedia! Thanks so much for writing it up.

It is this sort of story that ties in with similar stories from around the world that disabuses one of the idea that injustices, black dianetics, and various soul destroying practices were isolated incidents or something that occurred in some 'crazy' time period and don't happen any more.

The more stories like this get told, the more people will recognize the degree that evil has pervaded Scientology. Over the last two or three years I have come to realize that there is no possible salvage for Scientology. It is rotton to the core and must be destroyed utterly and completely.
 
Well, I've learned much reading your posts Ceedia.

a) I never picked you for NZ
b) I know that fuck and all its varianet were ripe inside Scn, but I never figured you to verbalize "count" with a silent "o".

Anyone else ever noticed that people who are put on "enforcing ethics cycles" become so anally retentive that they can't sit down for fear of sucking up the furniture?

I guess I was never exec enough to warrant such special treatment, but a camera in my face would have been a God'send. All my TRs would have been on the camera--f*** the auditor! I certainly understand how you felt--I never genuinely had the weight of a whole org on my shoulders but there were times when that's what it felt like.

It's a shame you didn't get 'examined' after these 'sessions'; the success stories would have made some really choice reading!

As for "Bob's" allegation of a triste in a cold shower in the Blue Mountains. I lived in the upper Blue Mountains for 6-8 years. If the two of you had been under the shower together, both your maps of Tasmania would have retracted into the mainland requiring cartegraphic modifications to Australia's southern coastline.

I was lucky in that I got out before DM's stranglehold, but because I had access to Ext Comm at the time, you can bet I would have been sending messages uplines if I got the chance.

I hope your writing these posts is as cathartic as is my reading them!

RPX
 
Well...YOU mentioned it!

Thanks for all your support and encouragement folks! This little "exercise" of mine, has been way more beneficial than what I could have imagined. The last two or three days (especially), have been enlightening!

...portion deleted...

I now know what the Cof S did to me and so do others! They killed my spirit, had me cleverly packaged and submerged in a horrid dark place. Thank God and thanks to the help of many, I am no longer there! My strength and my purpose in life, is fully restored. I am content within myself and happy with my life. It feels good to have my passion and drive back, as it does being steeled in regard to my current endeavours.

Thanks and cheers folks!
Ceedia :D

Passion? Did you say PASSION! :eyeroll: :ohmy: :happydance: :thumbsup:

EP in love for REAL now! :whistling:

Roy (the saner of the pair, maybe...)
 
Found out and exposed - yet again!

You are an uncouth barbarian! Even your English is fraught with pidgin and slang! :eyeroll: You offer to buy her inestimable charms like she was some Jerry-corner harlot....for shame!

Wirestripper my dear friend, I am duly repentant. It is true that I often take liberties with the English language; but remind you that it is my mother tongue, and I know it fairly well. Certainly well enough to use it in harmless and affectionate play.

Let me assure you that my respect, love and admiration for Ceedia knows no bounds; and her charms are indeed inestimable.


I am sure Ceedia would be more in tune with a fashionable upscale man, with an Italian suit and a subtle mastery of the Intimate Arts.

Brooks Brothers is more my style in sober truth - and subtlety is a personal thing for the most part. I am what I am, so what can I say?

And man enough to know that there would be no eye contact with Hubby in a devil's three-way x

Such meetings are a challenge for sure! But not impossible to handle, in my experience.

That's right.....daddy's home! :coolwink:

This woman is a free spirit, and "daddy's" presence or absence is only as significant as she considers it to be. This is the way with all worthwhile women - at least I have found it so.


----------------------------------------------

In all seriousness C, that fact that you are doing well with life, love and family after such a life-changing ordeal makes me think that someday...the evil of scientology will be no more! Good for you!

Yes, the evil spell is now null, void and has no power or hold over many here as a result of Ceedia's postings and those of others.

PS - two vodka martinis helped establish the eloquence of this post!

May I say that I prefer Beefeaters Gin - but then I am getting along in years and cling to tradition where it brings comfort. We are kindred spirits, or I miss my guess!

My best to you all,

Roy, The EP's EP
 
Dear Ceedia,

After reading your story I feel I have to unreservedly apologise. You see at about the time those interviews occurred a little whispering campaign came out that you were a 'little nutty'. When I read Panda's bit about the captain pulling him aside and talking to him I guessed it was to forward the OSA purpose of discrediting you.

My guess is that after that earnest attempt to introvert, or even spin you OSA put out the "she's a little nutty" line, I hate to say it but at that time you did look introverted, and so it stuck. It was at a time you undoubtedly needed friendship and support all of which the cult managed to isolate you from. I am very glad you have come through it and we have learned the truth.

Your friend Feral



Thanks for all your support and encouragement folks! This little "exercise" of mine, has been way more beneficial than what I could have imagined. The last two or three days (especially), have been enlightening!

As I've said before, I was writing and posting this part of my story in order to give those in ANZO more reality on what does and has actually gone down within the CofS. Many knew/know me around these parts, and those who did/do would have taken my account of what went down, at face value.

As it turned out, it has had a great effect on me personally. I had no idea on how "sad" and "lossy" I still was, in regard to my experience and life within the CofS, as well as in regard to what I felt about myself. Writing, posting, getting feedback (on board as well as on personal lines), and getting data.....the truth finally.....has blown that lingering sadness and loss away! I truly have my life back now.

To a certain degree, those fuckers put me into a hole and shut me up for 10 years or so. Life for me HAS been good these last ten years, but I had no idea that I was still living a life/lie of self abnegation - until after I started posting on this thread.

Through posting this final part of my history in Scn (and through feedback), I've discovered how they so successfuly "dead agented"/"black PR'd me, to so many. I could never understand the "good roads fair weather" that I copped from so many when our paths crossed. I used to wonder "How could they believe this crap?" "Why would it make a difference?", "WTF has happened?", "Why don't I belong?", "WTF have I done?".

Well, it's apparent now (from emails and text messages I've had forwarded to me), that those in the field, didn't actually give a shit about my past, nor did they buy the black PR on the "Bob" story. They did though "buy" that I had gone "nutty" - that I be "best left well alone" for MY sake. I've heard the same "line" now, from various sources, and from the people who have been contacting me in the last couple of days, apologizing for buying it way back then.

How smart of OSA and the CofS! Of course people who I had worked with, fsmed, audited, C/Sed for, protected and helped, weren't going to just "buy" that I was a "bad egg". The "nutty"/"on the verge of type 3" line though, could and would fly (especially as I was so introverted up my arse after those bloody interviews and comm-ev). With much effort and attention on the part of OSA and CofS Execs - the "line" worked. People bought it. Bloody lovely! While I could certainly go off the wall and bloody nuts when I was cranky and faced with insideous injustices and the like - I wasn't anywhere near "nutty" or "type 3". To suggest that (let alone forward that line to the rest of the field), was a heinous crime.

I now understand it. Knowing what went down has blown away so much shit in my world! It's fully restored my self respect and my personal peace at heart (after all this time - I wasn't even aware that any of it needed restoring). I had erroneously assigned the reason/cause of my life crashing, to my own doing - when it wasn't at all! Knowing this has shifted mountains for me.

I now know what the Cof S did to me and so do others! They killed my spirit, had me cleverly packaged and submerged in a horrid dark place. Thank God and thanks to the help of many, I am no longer there! My strength and my purpose in life, is fully restored. I am content within myself and happy with my life. It feels good to have my passion and drive back, as it does being steeled in regard to my current endeavours.

Thanks and cheers folks!
Ceedia :D
 
Thanks for all your support and encouragement folks! This little "exercise" of mine, has been way more beneficial than what I could have imagined. The last two or three days (especially), have been enlightening!

As I've said before, I was writing and posting this part of my story in order to give those in ANZO more reality on what does and has actually gone down within the CofS. Many knew/know me around these parts, and those who did/do would have taken my account of what went down, at face value.

As it turned out, it has had a great effect on me personally. I had no idea on how "sad" and "lossy" I still was, in regard to my experience and life within the CofS, as well as in regard to what I felt about myself. Writing, posting, getting feedback (on board as well as on personal lines), and getting data.....the truth finally.....has blown that lingering sadness and loss away! I truly have my life back now.

To a certain degree, those fuckers put me into a hole and shut me up for 10 years or so. Life for me HAS been good these last ten years, but I had no idea that I was still living a life/lie of self abnegation - until after I started posting on this thread.

Through posting this final part of my history in Scn (and through feedback), I've discovered how they so successfuly "dead agented"/"black PR'd me, to so many. I could never understand the "good roads fair weather" that I copped from so many when our paths crossed. I used to wonder "How could they believe this crap?" "Why would it make a difference?", "WTF has happened?", "Why don't I belong?", "WTF have I done?".

Well, it's apparent now (from emails and text messages I've had forwarded to me), that those in the field, didn't actually give a shit about my past, nor did they buy the black PR on the "Bob" story. They did though "buy" that I had gone "nutty" - that I be "best left well alone" for MY sake. I've heard the same "line" now, from various sources, and from the people who have been contacting me in the last couple of days, apologizing for buying it way back then.

How smart of OSA and the CofS! Of course people who I had worked with, fsmed, audited, C/Sed for, protected and helped, weren't going to just "buy" that I was a "bad egg". The "nutty"/"on the verge of type 3" line though, could and would fly (especially as I was so introverted up my arse after those bloody interviews and comm-ev). With much effort and attention on the part of OSA and CofS Execs - the "line" worked. People bought it. Bloody lovely! While I could certainly go off the wall and bloody nuts when I was cranky and faced with insideous injustices and the like - I wasn't anywhere near "nutty" or "type 3". To suggest that (let alone forward that line to the rest of the field), was a heinous crime.

I now understand it. Knowing what went down has blown away so much shit in my world! It's fully restored my self respect and my personal peace at heart (after all this time - I wasn't even aware that any of it needed restoring). I had erroneously assigned the reason/cause of my life crashing, to my own doing - when it wasn't at all! Knowing this has shifted mountains for me.

I now know what the Cof S did to me and so do others! They killed my spirit, had me cleverly packaged and submerged in a horrid dark place. Thank God and thanks to the help of many, I am no longer there! My strength and my purpose in life, is fully restored. I am content within myself and happy with my life. It feels good to have my passion and drive back, as it does being steeled in regard to my current endeavours.

Thanks and cheers folks!
Ceedia :D

So happy to read this. :)
 
Feral

Dear Ceedia,

After reading your story I feel I have to unreservedly apologise. You see at about the time those interviews occurred a little whispering campaign came out that you were a 'little nutty'. When I read Panda's bit about the captain pulling him aside and talking to him I guessed it was to forward the OSA purpose of discrediting you.

My guess is that after that earnest attempt to introvert, or even spin you OSA put out the "she's a little nutty" line, I hate to say it but at that time you did look introverted, and so it stuck. It was at a time you undoubtedly needed friendship and support all of which the cult managed to isolate you from. I am very glad you have come through it and we have learned the truth.

Your friend Feral

Apology truly accepted my friend, but no need for one (I know I must have "appeared" like an absolute cot case at the time, and the support you keep giving to myself and others is an admirable thing).

It's good that personally, it is all behind me now and I can laugh about it. Not so though, in regard to those still "in" or those who were "in" and are still suffering due to their, or their loved one's, involvement. May that change, sooner than we envision!

Love,
Ceedia
 
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