Desperation times
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We THRIVE on this sort of good stuff! 
Whatever you can think of - let us have it! 
Dulloldfart
Squirrel Extraordinaire
That's been going on for 30 years since the mid-late 70s, with HEJSC (Ethics and Justice Specialist), NOTs, and HSCSC (Senior Course Sup), the original training for Super Power, and much more since. But what is the latest deal? Is it still "Super Power" or have they got something else?
Paul
Iknowtoomuch
Gold Meritorious Patron
"Quicksilver" ring any bells?
Or maybe "unutalized".
The way staff are shuffled about makes it look like they are getting somewhere till you realize they simply undo the last evolution and remove staff from it for the next one.
Ok..so in answer to your question Paul..no, the Superpower deal is on the back burner..but there was the Basics evolution and each org had to have an extension course supervisor..which took almost a year to train..so a supervisor got ripped off from a key area and sent to CLO or Flag for that evolution with no replacement..yes I Know Too Much..a quicksilver to the ultimate and this is when there was supposed to be a Supervisor freeze on..collasped a whole area..then the next one..which is coming up supposedly..which is, I believe, going to be the reinstatement of the HAS Co-audit and needed for this next upcoming "evolution" are supervisors trained thru Class IV and C/Ses..so, instead of helping get guys recruited..of course, in comes a couple people from the CLO and rip another key person off their tech post..now leaving all introductory tech posts with no one on them..quite a scene..and this person goes to Flag as an Outer Org trainee and falls on their face the same as every single OOT has done except for one, at least from our area..yet the org now owes Flag hundreds of thousands of dollars for all these OOTs that never made it and feel degraded etc for not making it. In addition, totally against policy, the OOTs are all put on call in for the basics AFTER their already gruelling schedule day and they are too tired to study..it's an unbelievable scene.totally CRAZY to the max..
Hope this helps..
Rae
Hope this helps..
Rae
Dulloldfart
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Carmel
Crusader
Hey Rae,
Welcome to the board and thanks for the data!!!!!! Unbilleeeevable!
. Knew that things must have been crazy internally for such insanities to be impinging and filtering down to ANZO, but hell, what your saying, is really off the wall! At the same time, it figures! 
Good to get some current inside skinny. Looking forward to more from your end, as time and circumstances permit.
Cheers,
SNC
Welcome to the board and thanks for the data!!!!!! Unbilleeeevable!
. Knew that things must have been crazy internally for such insanities to be impinging and filtering down to ANZO, but hell, what your saying, is really off the wall! At the same time, it figures! Good to get some current inside skinny. Looking forward to more from your end, as time and circumstances permit.
Cheers,
SNC
cinamingrl
Patron Meritorious
Not me
I haven't been contacted, as all of the staff that were on staff when I was there have been thrown out of the organization. One of my friends who is out gets calls from them all the time. From Florida and the staff where we were. They reg her constantly for book sales and even told her that there are some tapes or something that have been found under some stairs that are brand new tech, that she needs to buy. It's more ridiculous lies. The lies are amazing. She can't even answer her own phone. She screens all her calls.
IF they ever did contact me I'd singe their ears.
As an addendum; I called the org that declared me to see if my old roommate was still on staff. She actually answered the phone! She called me back at home from her post in the Office of Special Affairs (I can't recall her post as I've forgotten all of the crazy acronyms). I merely asked her how she was and she spewed her life out, that was just scientology. She had nothing else going on but scientology. She was always a nutjob, but she sounded even nuttier now that I am out of it. After she spewed for about 4 minutes I just said "so you are still volunteering, do you still do your cosmotology job"? She said that she still has her license. And told her I was glad that she had that. She asked me if I "got my 'condition' handled". I said "my condition"? And she said "your declare, did you ever get your declare handled"? I only said "no, I'm not interested in doing that." And she said "well have a good life!" and hung up on me. That is typically rude manners that scientologists think is 'tech', but for real people and people who are honest, normal people her actions appear to be lacking in compassion. Especially considering that I allowed her to live in my home for free, after her scientologist husband left her for another woman, who was a scientologist auditor.
I haven't been contacted, as all of the staff that were on staff when I was there have been thrown out of the organization. One of my friends who is out gets calls from them all the time. From Florida and the staff where we were. They reg her constantly for book sales and even told her that there are some tapes or something that have been found under some stairs that are brand new tech, that she needs to buy. It's more ridiculous lies. The lies are amazing. She can't even answer her own phone. She screens all her calls.
IF they ever did contact me I'd singe their ears.
As an addendum; I called the org that declared me to see if my old roommate was still on staff. She actually answered the phone! She called me back at home from her post in the Office of Special Affairs (I can't recall her post as I've forgotten all of the crazy acronyms). I merely asked her how she was and she spewed her life out, that was just scientology. She had nothing else going on but scientology. She was always a nutjob, but she sounded even nuttier now that I am out of it. After she spewed for about 4 minutes I just said "so you are still volunteering, do you still do your cosmotology job"? She said that she still has her license. And told her I was glad that she had that. She asked me if I "got my 'condition' handled". I said "my condition"? And she said "your declare, did you ever get your declare handled"? I only said "no, I'm not interested in doing that." And she said "well have a good life!" and hung up on me. That is typically rude manners that scientologists think is 'tech', but for real people and people who are honest, normal people her actions appear to be lacking in compassion. Especially considering that I allowed her to live in my home for free, after her scientologist husband left her for another woman, who was a scientologist auditor.
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boonies
Patron
Very well said!
I haven't been contacted, as all of the staff that were on staff when I was there have been thrown out of the organization. One of my friends who is out gets calls from them all the time. From Florida and the staff where we were. They reg her constantly for book sales and even told her that there are some tapes or something that have been found under some stairs that are brand new tech, that she needs to buy. It's more ridiculous lies. The lies are amazing. She can't even answer her own phone. She screens all her calls.
IF they ever did contact me I'd singe their ears.
As an addendum; I called the org that declared me to see if my old roommate was still on staff. She actually answered the phone! She called me back at home from her post in the Office of Special Affairs (I can't recall her post as I've forgotten all of the crazy acronyms). I merely asked her how she was and she spewed her life out, that was just scientology. She had nothing else going on but scientology. She was always a nutjob, but she sounded even nuttier now that I am out of it. After she spewed for about 4 minutes I just said "so you are still volunteering, do you still do your cosmotology job"? She said that she still has her license. And told her I was glad that she had that. She asked me if I "got my 'condition' handled". I said "my condition"? And she said "your declare, did you ever get your declare handled"? I only said "no, I'm not interested in doing that." And she said "well have a good life!" and hung up on me. That is typically rude manners that scientologists think is 'tech', but for real people and people who are honest, normal people her actions appear to be lacking in compassion. Especially considering that I allowed her to live in my home for free, after her scientologist husband left her for another woman, who was a scientologist auditor.
Hi Cinamingirl,
sorry to hear how your old friend reacted. The CoS certainly ruins friendships.
Hopefully we'll all be here for her and all the others when they wake up....
Happily, I've never been contacted by anyone since I left nearly 30 years ago, but I have recently spoken to two other "old timers" who have had calls in the last month, one at least is declared bigtime, so it looks like a last ditch effort to sell books. Hilarious about pulling tech people off post, you can imagine the chaos.
Going down?
Solo
jasminefrech
Patron
I received another call last night from CJC from Sydney. She left a message on my answering machine saying that I need to handle my cycle. She said she had about 100 people on her list. Who else has been rung?
Feral
Rogue male
Kev, You see if you have any problems with scientology then that is explained by the fact you do not understand the basics. Good news that is fixed!!! The evil transcriptionist is the latest SP to be discovered!!!
Before that if you had trouble it was 'cos you needed the GAT, before that it was that you needed KTL and LOC and before that it was 'cos you needed an advanced pgm and you weren't clear. Before that it was 'cos you had done Mayo Nots. Before that it was that you were OT and had never done the grades. ER...before that all outnesses were explained by the need to do your next level.
In the cult every new release magically and mysteriously explains EVERY previous misadventure and outness as well as every unhappy customer.
Like the ship MAA said to me, "It's such a pity you are leaving...you nearly got "there" you were so close to doing OT VIII!"
Buying the latest release your the next level "solves" everything in scientology...always has always will.
yeah well..
Dear Feral, Well you didn't miss much..OTVlll was the bigget disappointment of any of the OT levels...in fact it simply discredits all previous auditing so you are just as well not to have done it.
I wish I had 1/2 the money I spent after being told again and again "there was out tech on your case and this next action is exactly what you need to handle it" .
I can't wait till the day I can laugh about all this...
..Rae
Dear Feral, Well you didn't miss much..OTVlll was the bigget disappointment of any of the OT levels...in fact it simply discredits all previous auditing so you are just as well not to have done it.
I wish I had 1/2 the money I spent after being told again and again "there was out tech on your case and this next action is exactly what you need to handle it" .
I can't wait till the day I can laugh about all this...
..Rae
Carmel
Crusader
Jasminefrech and Rae
.
Who is the CJC in ANZO now? Still shaking my head at the thought that they are actually trying to do such recovery cycles
. Hope that day aint too far down the track!
jasminefrech
Patron
She called herself Mary Jane (sounded American)
Carmel
Crusader
shoot'n themselves in the foot
Below is a text message, sent by Carol Colin - the ED of Sydney Day - to the "active" or the considered "active" Sydney field, this weekend:
"PLEASE READ HIGH IMPORTANCE THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED THIS WEEK. Well it has been two weeks since our first CALL TO ARMS and there has been some calls and collections but not to the level needed.We are on an imposed deadline and our work rate has to be proportionate to what is needed to get the IDEAL ORG put there. Yes it is quite some work and yes it pushes comfort zones and yes it is totally expected that you attend each week and make it go right to be there. We do not have the time luxury to be anything but TONE 40 and we do not have time for anything but action and real products. If time was not so crucial in achieving our goal then we could have patience but now the only thing needed is action by getting the energy* needed. The way this is done is firstly by us all paying our quotas now and secondly by ringing the people allocated to u and with total conviction insist with ARC that they do the same."
*energy - Scn term for "money" (for those who may not know).
Below is a text message, sent by Carol Colin - the ED of Sydney Day - to the "active" or the considered "active" Sydney field, this weekend:
"PLEASE READ HIGH IMPORTANCE THANKS TO ALL WHO HAVE HELPED THIS WEEK. Well it has been two weeks since our first CALL TO ARMS and there has been some calls and collections but not to the level needed.We are on an imposed deadline and our work rate has to be proportionate to what is needed to get the IDEAL ORG put there. Yes it is quite some work and yes it pushes comfort zones and yes it is totally expected that you attend each week and make it go right to be there. We do not have the time luxury to be anything but TONE 40 and we do not have time for anything but action and real products. If time was not so crucial in achieving our goal then we could have patience but now the only thing needed is action by getting the energy* needed. The way this is done is firstly by us all paying our quotas now and secondly by ringing the people allocated to u and with total conviction insist with ARC that they do the same."
*energy - Scn term for "money" (for those who may not know).
Feral
Rogue male
Caroline Collen was ED Syd day.
I heard she was taken off that post to do the much more important job of securing the free real-estate. I also heard that there was two students in the Syd day course room when a friend went into the org.
But of course all that will change when they have a new building! That's all that's missing for the org to really BOOM.
Sadly the very people (if they are staff,) who buy this building and gift it to int management will be working double time to earn the rent to send up lines for the privilege of working there for next to no pay.
Has any one read the "ideal org" PL? I missed the bit about the new building! I have lot's of MUs but I thought PCs and students were more important, that and something to do with delivery....
I heard she was taken off that post to do the much more important job of securing the free real-estate. I also heard that there was two students in the Syd day course room when a friend went into the org.
But of course all that will change when they have a new building! That's all that's missing for the org to really BOOM.
Sadly the very people (if they are staff,) who buy this building and gift it to int management will be working double time to earn the rent to send up lines for the privilege of working there for next to no pay.
Has any one read the "ideal org" PL? I missed the bit about the new building! I have lot's of MUs but I thought PCs and students were more important, that and something to do with delivery....
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