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My FLAG repayment request was denied. I would like your suggestions.
I'm using a temporary new account to post this. I'll delete it after I'm done with this thread. I have a regular ESMB account with more than a few posts. I just don't want them to associate my real name to it.
I used the refund/repayment letter found here http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=8652 as a guide. I changed it to make it my own. I left most of it the same.
I also added (from another thread): "Please be advised that I have quit the Church of Scientology and may no longer be considered a member of the Church. Therefore, I am no longer subject to the rules and tenets of your organization, including "Suppressive Person" declares, "Ethics Orders" or any other Church of Scientology private or publication about me. Please be advised that any such orders, if issued, shall be considered harassment and libel and will be dealt with accordingly."
The amounts were relatively small. About $1000 on account for un-used auditing hours that got credited to use for training only. I had about $100 on account for accommodations.
The letter denied a repayment of the $1000. They did agree to repay the $100 for accommodations. They included a "Release, Waiver, and Writ of Expulsion" to sign. It would eliminate the chance of joining the Class Action suit for IAS donations ($10K) at a later date, if that every came about.
Here's what the letter said:
I thought I should be able to get a repayment of my money on account.
I thought repayments were easier to get these days.
I am not asking for a refund for services delivered.
I thought the routing form was not required, no matter the amount.
They seem to have their own "form" letter to combat our "form" letter.
What can I do? :confused2:
I want to get my $1100.00 so I can fee like dancing.
I'm using a temporary new account to post this. I'll delete it after I'm done with this thread. I have a regular ESMB account with more than a few posts. I just don't want them to associate my real name to it.
I used the refund/repayment letter found here http://forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?t=8652 as a guide. I changed it to make it my own. I left most of it the same.
I also added (from another thread): "Please be advised that I have quit the Church of Scientology and may no longer be considered a member of the Church. Therefore, I am no longer subject to the rules and tenets of your organization, including "Suppressive Person" declares, "Ethics Orders" or any other Church of Scientology private or publication about me. Please be advised that any such orders, if issued, shall be considered harassment and libel and will be dealt with accordingly."
The amounts were relatively small. About $1000 on account for un-used auditing hours that got credited to use for training only. I had about $100 on account for accommodations.
The letter denied a repayment of the $1000. They did agree to repay the $100 for accommodations. They included a "Release, Waiver, and Writ of Expulsion" to sign. It would eliminate the chance of joining the Class Action suit for IAS donations ($10K) at a later date, if that every came about.
Here's what the letter said:
Dear XXXX,
Your letter dated December XX was forwarded to me due to your threats of legal action.
I will do what I can to assist you in your request, but I notice your letter seems to be a "form" letter that you apparently think will achieve a faster result. Factually, however making threats of legal (or other) action can often cause delays (especially if attorneys actually get involved) and can potentially void any legitimate request you may have.
As the Church has no legal obligation to return donations to you, and does so solely under Church policy, it is much more expedient to simply follow the Church guidelines when making a request.
What is available to be returned to you is a total of $100.00.
The $1000.00 is not returnable under Church policy as it is a credit for training purposes, as indicated on your Parishioner Statement. Portions of an auditing intensive do not get returned if someone asks for their donations back. It is noted on your statement as credit you could utilize if you desired to do Church training and this practice is covered in HCO PL 6 July 1965:
"... the org may credit the person with that amount (of the unused balance of the intensive) toward training. If no training is going to be undertaken by the person, then, of course, there is no crediting."
Generally, if someone is going to have donations for services returned, they are required to do a routing form. However, because the amount is so small, I will not ask you to do so.
I have enclosed a release for you to sign. Once you have done so, please fax it to me with an acknowledgement that you have put the original in the mail and I will get the check cut for you and sent out.
Should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. A fax is the quickest way to reach me.
Sincerely,
Sarah Heller
Legal Director
Church of Scientology
Flag Service Organization
I thought I should be able to get a repayment of my money on account.
I thought repayments were easier to get these days.
I am not asking for a refund for services delivered.
I thought the routing form was not required, no matter the amount.
They seem to have their own "form" letter to combat our "form" letter.
What can I do? :confused2:
I want to get my $1100.00 so I can fee like dancing.