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Is the ARC Triangle of Any Use?

Discussion in 'Scientology Technology' started by Demented Hubbatd, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. Veda

    Veda Sponsor


    Hubbard's 'The Factors' is a re-write of Crowley's 'Naples Arrangement', complete with Hubbard's addition of "Affinity, Reality, Communication" in the same place as Crowley had inserted the yogic "Bliss, Knowledge, Being."

    And Crowley's 'Naples Arrangement' was, itself, a re-write of older Kabbalistic (and other) ideas, with Crowley's addition of a bit of Yogic teaching.

    Hubbard removed the earlier part of Crowley's Naples Arrangement which posits a primordial 0+ and 0- ("boy and girl" aspect to "zero") which somehow generate(d) a kind of pre-cosmic tension that begins the creation of (a) (the) universe.

    However, Hubbard kept Crowley's insertion of "Bliss, Knowledge, Being" which became "Affinity, Reality, Communication."

    From Crowley's 'Book of Thoth':

    "These ideas of Being, Thought and Bliss [or Bliss, Knowledge, being] constitute the minimum possible qualities which a point must possess if it is to have a real sensible experience of itself..."
  2. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    well. when I researched "Naples Arrangement" I came up with this:

    That website does explain Hubbards PDC lectures and The Factors and other such bullshit from Hubbard. Who would have known it is based on Tarot?

    If I had known from the beginning of my involvement that Hubbard was part of this shit, why I would have told them all to kiss my ass. But therein is Hubbard's use of Rhetoric to persuade. He didn't tell the truth, but told that he was science based, and his brainchild known as the COS is even a Applied Religious Philosophy.

    Well Ron - kiss my ass, asshole! There are no clears or OT's, you fucking idiot, Ron.
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2017
  3. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    well, Gib, Ron had to lie about his past and research, well, because who would listen to what he had to say if he told the truth, nobody would believe him since he failed at college, since he had 3 wives, etc,

    better to make up things that sound plausible. LOL
  4. TheOriginalBigBlue

    TheOriginalBigBlue Gold Meritorious Patron

    The way it is applied by Scientologists is often manipulative and insincere along the lines of Big League Sales Closing Techniques. What is the underlying motivation behind the ARC?

    If a newbie walks into an org, they have little R-Reality on the person until they get them to submit to a Personality Test. So they use the A-Affinity leg of the 3 legged stool with love bombing. Once they have love bombed them into getting enough R then they know upon which points to C-Communicate in order to get them to buy a book, provide contact info and routed onto course.

    Like everything else in Scientology, even if it has a nominally workable premise the ethics and motivation behind it's application gets twisted.
  5. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    OMG, you're right, people have been lying about their resume or bio forever. It's a bad use of Rhetoric I tell you. When some company finds out you lied on your resume, why You're Fired.

    L Ron Hubbard, you are fired!!!!! LOL

    Gib, and what was it that the Mayo said, along with Bill Franks, why it's ARCX that causes blows. Holy shit, ain't that the truth, why there are no clears and no OT's or even natural clears or past life clears.

    Gib, go figure, when you make it to OT8 you get to find out, guess what? LOL
  6. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    OK, I'll bite, I found the answer, here it is:

    [SIZE=+1]"I now know what I am not and am ready find out what I am"

    OMG, what a bunch of BS, after spending all this time in scientology, I'm left with the recurring theme of scientology from the get go. Which is actually nothing of value but yet another mystery to continue up the bridge to OT9 and beyond. LOL
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2017
  7. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    Just in the interest of Truth, Justice and the American Way; I beg to differ. That is an inaccurate (misinformed) interpretation of the OT8 EP.
    I don't know where you got that information but it's incorrect. The actual EP is easily found on the Interwebs, try to get it right, willya? It helps when you stick to the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. :)
  8. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    provide the actual truth, more than willing to amend my post.
  9. Ogsonofgroo

    Ogsonofgroo Crusader


    Make it a triangle, a square, some sort of geometric shape, no matter. You can can take pretty much any choice of 'to live by platitudes' ( ie. plain old common sense), and mold it into some sort of crap, and that is what the ol' twisted fuck did.
    Hey, he liked triangles and pyramids and shit, it was all so mystical/magical back in the good ol' days......

  10. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    Easily found on the interwebs, but not easily posted by you? LOL

    How about this as the OT VIII EP? And I didn't even have to look it up!

    "I now know who am not and I am interested in finding out who I am."

    It's virtually identical to Gib's wording in that both are ludicrous jokes when considering that the cosmic promo for OT VIII promised "TRUTH REVEALED".

    What truth? That the OT VIII (after decades and a half-million dollars or more) is disoriented and doesn't have any idea who they are?
  11. F.Bullbait

    F.Bullbait Oh, a wise guy,eh?


    Truth Revealed

    Got it!

  12. WildKat

    WildKat Gold Meritorious Patron

    So Hubs took Crowley bullshit and added his own spin to make Hubs bullshit. None of the garbage written above even makes any sense!
  13. phenomanon

    phenomanon Canyon

    Was it on the Clearing Course where one of the things was geometic shaped figures moving toward you and away from you?
    I blissed out on the concept while standing on some overpass over the Hollywood Freeway and watching the ribbons of traffic moving toward me and away from me.
    Reach and Withdraw from a bank. Magical. lol.
  14. strativarius

    strativarius Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband

    That's right, reach for your chequeue book and withdraw all the money from your account.
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2017
  15. Gib

    Gib Crusader

    yah, HH, I meant Who and not What. But it really is a ludicrous joke, not only the money but the time.

    I suppose if one were thinking with the story line and imagination of Hubbard, it could make sense, I mean after all those hours of BT stripping, why one is supposedly left with oneself, of course this is bullocks anyways, but the DM blew it, now thinking like a Hubbarite and his bullshit ideas, why the DM should have called his Survival Rundown that he makes everybody do, why he could have called it OT9 and made available only to OT8 comps, just thinking with the story line of Hubbard's scientology.

    And not one OT8 would realize they had been had again if the Survival Rundown was called OT9. :melodramatic::roflmao:
  16. Panda Termint

    Panda Termint Cabal Of One

    I have discussed it several times in the past here on ESMB.
    I'm only here for this brief moment in Eternity so I hope you'll forgive me if I don't keep repeating myself.
  17. programmer_guy

    programmer_guy True Ex-Scientologist

    Panda Termint:

    I see no evidence that pet cats, dogs, birds have any confusion about being who they are as individuals in a cultural world.

    If any humans have this identity problem then I suspect that it has been induced by a pseudo-scientific mind control cult.

    Or did I misunderstand your post?
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2017
  18. ThetanExterior

    ThetanExterior Gold Meritorious Patron

    The ARC Triangle is probably as useful as the KRC Triangle:

    Knowledge: Scientologists are the only people who have true knowledge of the mind.

    Responsibility: Scientologists are dedicated to Clearing the Planet.

    Control: Since they have the knowledge and responsibility, Scientologists are now in control of the mental health field on this planet.

    Err.....hold on a minute. Something seems to have gone wrong here.:confused2:
  19. HelluvaHoax!

    HelluvaHoax! Platinum Meritorious Sponsor with bells on


    As long as some are seriously discussing the life-changing technology of OT VIII, I thought I would share with you my personal experience on OT IX!

    It's remarkably similar to OT VIII, but more spiritually advanced.

    The Pre-OT inspects all the times on the wholetrack they ate food--and marks down on the worksheets whether they liked the food or not. Then, using precise e-meter diagnostics, they scientifically determine whether it was THEM or a BT that liked/disliked the food.

    The EP is that they now know who did or didn't like the food and they are interested to find out what kind of food they really like.

    It's powerful beyond your wildest dreams!

    After completing this spectacular level, OT IXs have gone out to a restaurant and miraculously been able to order food that they like!

    People! Get on the level people!
  20. JustSheila

    JustSheila Crusader

    :laugh: :hysterical: Then after all those years completing those levels, some years later, dementia sets in and the OT VIIIs and OTIXs claim they never loved apple pie and can't remember what else they loved or hated, either. Identity gone and don't know who they are.

    It doesn't last long for all that money, does it?