OSA Operatives: How-to Guide

pkatz

Patron with Honors
OSA Operatives: johntravolta opens up...wide

A thread called "I'm New...HELP!" at gCaptain.com has just blown up into an anti-scn anti LRH anti Sea Org snark fest.

It started as an innocuous thread by a clueless newbie, who got mobbed and destroyed by the sarcastic gCaptain crew who won't stand anyone too lazy to do searches on that site and get his very basic questions on becoming a mariner answered.

Then, with the flaming at full throttle, an innocent doofus who unwisely chose "johntravolta" as his handle posted at "I'm NEW".

The hilarity starts at http://www.gcaptain.com/forum/professional-mariner-forum/16884-a-3.html post #32 and has carried on unabated for 4 pages, so far!

ps to OSA: PLEASE come aboard @ gCaptain and be holed, flooded and sunk on Snark Reef! I guarantee NO SURVIVORS.
 
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TheOriginalBigBlue

Gold Meritorious Patron
You say that OSA will never match up to the old GO. I think the only difference is that OSA has learned not to get caught. In fact i believe that OSA is just an extension of the old GO. The COS used the foundation of the old GO to build upon and changed the name to OSA so no one would remember the stink of what happened when the old GO was supposedly shut down. I think they are one and the same with the same dirty tactics. OSA Opperating Scientologist Assasins

Exactement!

The initial posting for this thread reads like a bunch of old cold war spooks talking on a bugged party line. They know the young guys in The Game are listening and the new spooks know that they know they are listening.

And what are they talking about? How Mary Sue, Jane, Fred and all the rest got busted big time for bugging, stealing documents, infiltrating - everything they were supposed to be doing, but then the church tossed them to the wolves, disbanded the band and put it back together later with a new name.

The same problem exists. To paraphrase King Longshank, "The trouble with OSA...Is it is full of OSA". They are what they are: sneaky sneaks that offend the sensibilities of any decent person. Their vulnerability is anytime they do anything, they exponentially risk exposure by leaving a trail, another misplaced surveillance report and the shear volume of ugly optics, creepy stoic thugs with sunglasses trying to capture their enemy on film in an awkward moment that can be used out of context. The whole world knows the score.

They are on auto-pilot. The policy and the power structure are locked into a pattern of behavior that was established in a world with no internet. Now the enemies list is growing like a wild fire. Baiting them into more and more conflicts that they cannot manage or afford and even their own rank and file don't support the extravagance of funding this war.

Most Sea Org staff had little to no idea of what the old B1 did. It may be the same today. If and when this incarnation of the GO gets called on the carpet it will be just as ugly. But there is only one other option and that is to be civil so there is never any need to hide anything. We are way beyond that now.
 
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Smurf

Gold Meritorious SP
Crosspost from OCMB..

Karen#1 posted.. "I think its important to OUT the Cult's Private investigators. A United States congressional committee needs to subpoena all these Private Investigators to find out what dirt they are asked to do and to get a grasp of how much *ecclesiastical* $$$ is spent on revenge tactics on whistleblowers and critics.

Maria Cuervo posted publicly on ESMB the following : I was contacted by a private investigator today at airport. He had the seat next to me on my flight. I did not realize he was CoS until 1/2 way into our chat. We exchanged phone and email. Swell. The interview lasted 3 hours and was friendly. lol.

Here's the PI paid for Tax exempt dollars Art Randolf from New Jersey. (The Cult specializes is hiring Ex Cops, Ex Secret Service, Ex Federal Agents. They are all paid with Tax exempt dollars.)

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/art-randolph/14/a06/582

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=41348&start=3270

Arthur G. and Marilu Randolph live in Asbury, NJ.

http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=125622

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Arthur-Randolph/1109594255

He's not shown on the site, but he owns this company with Jose L. Medina.

http://www.apc360zone.com

http://patents.justia.com/assignee/awareness-protective-consultants-llc

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Arthur-G-Randolph/Asbury-NJ/37yt0t7

http://radaris.com/~Arthur-Randolph/128412506
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Crosspost from OCMB..

Karen#1 posted.. "I think its important to OUT the Cult's Private investigators. A United States congressional committee needs to subpoena all these Private Investigators to find out what dirt they are asked to do and to get a grasp of how much *ecclesiastical* $$$ is spent on revenge tactics on whistleblowers and critics.

Maria Cuervo posted publicly on ESMB the following : I was contacted by a private investigator today at airport. He had the seat next to me on my flight. I did not realize he was CoS until 1/2 way into our chat. We exchanged phone and email. Swell. The interview lasted 3 hours and was friendly. lol.

Here's the PI paid for Tax exempt dollars Art Randolf from New Jersey. (The Cult specializes is hiring Ex Cops, Ex Secret Service, Ex Federal Agents. They are all paid with Tax exempt dollars.)

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/art-randolph/14/a06/582

http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=41348&start=3270

Arthur G. and Marilu Randolph live in Asbury, NJ.

http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.asp?tn=125622

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Arthur-Randolph/1109594255

He's not shown on the site, but he owns this company with Jose L. Medina.

http://www.apc360zone.com

http://patents.justia.com/assignee/awareness-protective-consultants-llc

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Arthur-G-Randolph/Asbury-NJ/37yt0t7

http://radaris.com/~Arthur-Randolph/128412506


The formation of such a US Congressional committee is surely going to cost scientology parishoners a pretty penny. OSA's complicit lawyers would have to hire even more PIs to investigate all the committee members, as Lou err David Miscavige would have declared the whole such committee as SPs, and create profiles on each of the members of the committee.

ON second thought, maybe they wouldn't have to do all that because it is might well have been done already by SEA ORG members who are getting 'Ethics_In' on this planet.

scientology is so trend setting. Soon the IRS will have a requirement that to have religious tax exemption all staff and volunteer members of
the religion must be on or through a checksheet to become licensed PIs. They can just sign off the items on the checksheet that they have already done. Examples;

written KRs - checked off
TR-Lie checked off
Falsely claim state of Clear - many checked off
Falsely claim the state of OT- checked off and free check off for number of times gone bankrupt to attain the level.
practiced espionage on any US citizen -checked off and triple the number of free FLOATING check offs if done on family members multiplied by the number of real or imagined Congress persons.
etc

I am sure someone can help me build this checksheet so all it takes to complete it is sign each line as done and the person can attest to being a certified member of the Holy Sea of these United Bridges of Hubbardized America.

The award for the best checksheet in an org will be a telescoping platformed heeled special edition shoes. COBs will be excluded from competing
 

dchoiceisalwaysrs

Gold Meritorious Patron
Hi Panda,

I well realize I am responding to a post you made 7 years ago, but I think a good chunk of what the sub-plot is is Safepointing with perceived OLs and or persons who are seen as having some authority. Nonetheless it seems as though the connections they are using are less and less appropriate, less 'authoritative, regardless of their official sounding titles. I think a good example of this is the statements made by the VIPs/OLs of the recent Milan Ideal org 'opening'. t

I tried but failed to find the recent post I read that quotes each of these VIPs and their declaration that they are not scientologist

You raise some interesting points, Schwimmey, I just can't quite put it all together yet.

One thing that did catch my attention is this idea of OSA wanting to distract us from something important by fixing attention elsewhere. That is certainly a standard GO practice.

Many actions the GO undertook had a sub-plot, a hidden and underlying agenda.

It seems to have been during times where there was an atmosphere of desperation not unlike today.

I wonder what the current sub-plot might be?
 

Lord Xenu

Patron Meritorious
Hi Panda,

I well realize I am responding to a post you made 7 years ago, but I think a good chunk of what the sub-plot is is Safepointing with perceived OLs and or persons who are seen as having some authority. Nonetheless it seems as though the connections they are using are less and less appropriate, less 'authoritative, regardless of their official sounding titles. I think a good example of this is the statements made by the VIPs/OLs of the recent Milan Ideal org 'opening'. t

I tried but failed to find the recent post I read that quotes each of these VIPs and their declaration that they are not scientologist

Thanks for bumping dchoice. This is an important thread. I've just started at the beginning as I wasn't here first time around.
 

CaliMule

Work Hard and Bray
using the reject-buttons (these are from a list written by LRH, buttons that cause people to reject what you’re saying)
Are these "reject buttons" written down anywhere? Pointers?

I've exhausted search of my GO/OSA archive of materials and Google search.
 

screamer2

Idiot Bastardson
Are these "reject buttons" written down anywhere? Pointers?

I've exhausted search of my GO/OSA archive of materials and Google search.
LRH defined “Right-hand Buttons” compared to “Left-hand Buttons” in a lecture given on 2 October 1962, entitled 3GA Listing Lines by Tiger Buttons
 

Dulloldfart

Squirrel Extraordinaire
I don't know what he's referring to exactly. I did see some OSA N/W Order about using some mentioned "R6 words" in court cases. It could be they tried that several times and it didn't work at all (doh) so they stopped doing it.

There's also the TRAINING: DUPLICATION Study Tape bit of

The way you want to do this is just introduce any button that will cause [some planning committee] to take zero responsibility. Just introduce any button that will reduce their responsibility. Anything! It doesn’t matter. Give them a restimulative word. Just do it by symbols. You see, you’re trying to paralyze this committee, that’s what you’re trying to do, you see, just overtly, so they won’t make a wrong act.
...
You can say something, ”Well, wasn’t the last time this type of proposal was proposed, wasn’t that – ” you know, there was a fellow by the name of Bellham who was just hated throughout the whole organization, you see, just say this word and everybody went Eeeee! and so on – you say, ”Wasn’t that last proposed by Bellham?” Everybody of course takes no responsibility for it instantly, you see? And then they will get into a discussion about Bellham, and you’re all set. But they just derail on a button like that!

Paul
 

CaliMule

Work Hard and Bray
LRH defined “Right-hand Buttons” compared to “Left-hand Buttons” in a lecture given on 2 October 1962, entitled 3GA Listing Lines by Tiger Buttons

Indeed, but there is no indication that these are buttons that specifically "cause people to reject what you’re saying".

Usually LRH is talking bullshit off the top of his head to keep his audience hooked, but those few occasions when he isn't turn out to be lifted from bright people who did know something wonderful to contemplate. It is also so easily testable. I could go out to a shopping mall today and test out these "buttons" which cause people to reject what you say, and that intrigues me.

The way you want to do this is just introduce any button that will cause [some planning committee] to take zero responsibility.
Thanks for chiming in. I point out that this button deals with paralysis, distraction or inertia on the part of the PRESSEE rather than the pressee having their button pressed which causes them to disbelieve what you say.

What a fascinating array of buttons Hubbard fantasized about.
 
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CaliMule

Work Hard and Bray
Are these "reject buttons" written down anywhere? Pointers?

I've exhausted search of my GO/OSA archive of materials and Google search.
Last closing minutes desparate plea. Does anyone know where to locate this LRH written list of "reject buttons". That means specifically buttons which cause the listener to reject what you are telling them. Said to be a "list" LRH wrote.

Many thanks, and again, so long and thanks for all the fish.


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